Psychopathology and Drugs

[á´…eparted]

And yet you are quite prepared to join the bullies on Typology Central and continue the bullying of Mole.

If you were genuinely interested in your own psyche, you might ask what is the attraction?

The bully here, is you.

 

[Mole]

Sometimes giving out condoms *gasp* cuts STD rates, sometimes giving heroin addicts clean needles *gasp* prevents HIV, etc

It's just that many people can't math so they fall back on ancient superstitions that actually don't work at all because that is all they can understand

And I might add no one on this Continent gets arrested for possession of marijuana, however we do have a problem with ice, and interestingly, with steroids. In fact the users of steroids shoot up in our free injecting rooms, with a medical attendant present.

 

[miss fortune]

And yet you are quite prepared to join the bullies on Typology Central and continue the bullying of Mole.

If you were genuinely interested in your own psyche, you might ask what is the attraction?

I stepped in because you advocated that people not take their medication for mental health problems, not because I want to join anyone... that's some dangerous advice you're giving there

 

[prplchknz]

I stepped in because you advocated that people not take their medication for mental health problems, not because I want to join anyone... that's some dangerous advice you're giving there

*puts away cult robe a had sewn especially for you*

 

[Mole]

I stepped in because you advocated that people not take their medication for mental health problems, not because I want to join anyone... that's some dangerous advice you're giving there

Let's be clear: you have no hesitation about lying about me. I am the last person to advocate people not take their medication for mental health problems.

It is extraordinary that in order to join the bullies on Typology Central it is necessary to lie about me and assassinate my character.

What need in you does this meet?

 

[á´…eparted]

And I might add no one on this Continent gets arrested for possession of marijuana, however we do have a problem with ice, and interestingly, with steroids. In fact the users of steroids shoot up in our free injecting rooms, with a medical attendant present.

Are you against these laws? Based on what you've said in the past I would guess you are wildly against these laws methods (which I strongly support). I've always gotten the impression that you love everything about australia and what it does. This definitely seems out of alignment here which is quite surprising.

 

[miss fortune]

Let's be clear: you have no hesitation about lying about me. I am the last person to advocate people not take their medication for mental health problems.

It is extraordinary that in order to join the bullies on Typology Central it is necessary to lie about me and assassinate my character.

What need in you does this meet?

if that's the case, you may wish to disambiguate more, because this quote definitely sounds like you're bashing psych meds, and I know I'm not the only one who read it that way

We know that those suffering from a mental illness medicate their symptoms with drugs. This has the effect of not dealing with the illness. This enables the illness to continue and worsen.

 

[Mole]

if that's the case, you may wish to disambiguate more, because this quote definitely sounds like you're bashing psych meds, and I know I'm not the only one who read it that way

C'mon the conflict here is between those who want to justify their criminal use of drugs and those who point out the dangers of criminal drugs. It has nothing to do with prescription drugs.

But worse, it is a conflict between conformist thinking and original thinking.

And even worse, there is a whole gang here harassing Mole. Mole has been harassed from the moment he arrived and started posting original thoughts.

How the conformists hate originality.

 

[á´…eparted]

C'mon the conflict here is between those who want to justify their criminal use of drugs and those who point out the dangers of criminal drugs. It has nothing to do with prescription drugs.

But worse, it is a conflict between conformist thinking and original thinking.

And even worse, there is a whole gang here harassing Mole. Mole has been harassed from the moment he arrived and started posting original thoughts.

How the conformists hate originality.

How the "conformists" hate flaming bullshit, which has been thoroughly pointed out . You didn't refute any of our points except for flimsy personal opinions/anecdotes that aren't substantiated. You don't engage in debate, you just preach via moral brigading and just artfully dodge everyone and ignore the majority of responses, while cryptically and disparagingly responding to others. You've admitted to doing exactly this multiple times in the past, so don't tell us we're "conformists" for not taking well to your demeaning soap boxing.

 

[miss fortune]

C'mon the conflict here is between those who want to justify their criminal use of drugs and those who point out the dangers of criminal drugs. It has nothing to do with prescription drugs.

But worse, it is a conflict between conformist thinking and original thinking.

And even worse, there is a whole gang here harassing Mole. Mole has been harassed from the moment he arrived and started posting original thoughts.

How the conformists hate originality.

dude, I had one bone to pick with you and that was it...

I don't do drugs... I don't even drink or smoke

 

[Yuurei]

How the "conformists" hate flaming bullshit, which has been thoroughly pointed out . You didn't refute any of our points except for flimsy personal opinions/anecdotes that aren't substantiated. You don't engage in debate, you just preach via moral brigading and just artfully dodge everyone and ignore the majority of responses, while cryptically and disparagingly responding to others. You've admitted to doing exactly this multiple times in the past, so don't tell us we're "conformists" for not taking well to your demeaning soap boxing.

I am amused by those who use the term " conformist" as an insult. Rarely do they do anything truly original. They just do everything that is the opposite of what is considered " Mainstream" i.e. conforming to a different side. I hate sides. Those who make decisions based on what side they are equally wrong in my book.

 

[LovecraftianMonstrosity]

Our whole Continent has a government funded program to provide free condoms, and this very same Continent has a government funded program to provide free needles, and as well we provide free injecting rooms staffed with a medical attendant.

We abandoned ancient superstitions at our founding because we were founded by the Scottish and English Enlightenment, where the USA was founded by Puritan superstition.

And this ancient tradition of superstition is carried on in mbti, right here, under our noses.

How are you any different from them though? You call everyone a "narcissist" who disagrees with these random and spurious correlations that you make that seem to be based more on your own internal dialogue than something objective. I am not sure if you come from a spiritual tradition or not, but you think in these x = good, y = bad ways and there is just NO EXUSE that is EVIL and SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE about it. It's just not realistic. Whether we like it or not there will always be people who for whatever reason get caught up in drugs. If we ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist then guess what? IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. So the question is IF it is true that some people will get caught up in drugs what types of policies are successful at stopping the abuses that happen in that scenario. For example in the wall st journal they were talking about how in Ecuador{? I am not 100% sure on this) they have banned cocaine, but legalized the production of coca via the coca leaf and allowing people to chew it. It has less negative effects and the native people there have had that as a part of their culture for thousands of years. So far it has been more effective than the policy of crop burning or dropping herbicides on cocaine plantations. So I would invite you to focus on the tactic that has proven results because that is better for the society than standing from the sidelines and oh so piously yelling "Impious rake! YOU SIR YES YOU THERE ARE A CHARLATAN AND A HOOLIGAN!"

 

[Mole]

How are you any different from them though? You call everyone a "narcissist" who disagrees with these random and spurious correlations that you make that seem to be based more on your own internal dialogue than something objective. I am not sure if you come from a spiritual tradition or not, but you think in these x = good, y = bad ways and there is just NO EXUSE that is EVIL and SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE about it. It's just not realistic. Whether we like it or not there will always be people who for whatever reason get caught up in drugs. If we ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist then guess what? IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. So the question is IF it is true that some people will get caught up in drugs what types of policies are successful at stopping the abuses that happen in that scenario. For example in the wall st journal they were talking about how in Ecuador{? I am not 100% sure on this) they have banned cocaine, but legalized the production of coca via the coca leaf and allowing people to chew it. It has less negative effects and the native people there have had that as a part of their culture for thousands of years. So far it has been more effective than the policy of crop burning or dropping herbicides on cocaine plantations. So I would invite you to focus on the tactic that has proven results because that is better for the society than standing from the sidelines and oh so piously yelling "Impious rake! YOU SIR YES YOU THERE ARE A CHARLATAN AND A HOOLIGAN!"

Well, I am a charlatan and a hooligan, perhaps I am moving up in the world.

On Typology Central we are in loco parentis to young teenagers. It is our duty to give good advice and protect them where we can.

On the other hand, there is group who are relentless and determined to justify the criminal use of drugs.

I am surprised I have to point out that the criminal use of drugs is highly damaging to young teenagers.

And this raises the interesting question is why would adults seek to damage young teenagers. And the answer is that they are not trying to damage young teenagers, rather they are genuine narcissists who don't care about the consequences of their actions on others, particularly the vulnerable.

 

[Mole]

I am amused by those who use the term " conformist" as an insult. Rarely do they do anything truly original. They just do everything that is the opposite of what is considered " Mainstream" i.e. conforming to a different side. I hate sides. Those who make decisions based on what side they are equally wrong in my book.

This is true and interesting. There are those who simply rebel against the mainstream and offer nothing original, this is a trope of popular American culture. On the other hand I regularly offer something original because I am deeply in touch with myself. I am able to offer something original because I am not dependent on the outside world, and I am deeply conscious of life bubbling up inside me. So I have my own voice, I don't need to parrot the voice of anyone else.

By the same token, I am deeply conscious that whatever I offer of originality must be tested against reality.

 

[Mole]

dude, I had one bone to pick with you and that was it...

I don't do drugs... I don't even drink or smoke

So the question is: will you join those who are justifying the criminal use of drugs, or will you join those in loco parentis who seek to protect the young and vulnerable?

 

[Tater]

Marijuana Arrests Outnumber Those for (All) Violent Crimes, Study Finds

Arrests for possessing small amounts of marijuana exceeded those for all violent crimes last year, a new study has found, even as social attitudes toward the drug have changed and a number of cities and states have legalized its use or decriminalized small quantities.

And a disproportionate number of those arrested are African-Americans, who smoke marijuana at rates similar to whites but are arrested and prosecuted far more often for having small amounts for personal use, according to the study. The arrests can overwhelm court systems.

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With marijuana use on the rise, law enforcement agencies made 574,641 arrests last year for small quantities of the drug intended for personal use, according to the report, which was released Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights Watch. The marijuana arrests were about 13.6 percent more than the 505,681 arrests made for all violent crimes, including murder, rape and serious assaults.

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The report is the latest study to highlight the disparate treatment African-Americans often receive in the criminal justice system, including disproportionate numbers of blacks who are sent to jail when they are unable to pay court-imposed fees, or stopped by the police during traffic stops or while riding bicycles.

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Tess Borden, a fellow at Human Rights Watch and the A.C.L.U., who wrote the report, found that despite the steep decline in crime rates over the last two decades — including a 36 percent drop in violent crime arrests from 1995 to 2015 — the number of arrests for all drug possessions, including marijuana, increased 13 percent.

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Criminologists say that African-Americans are arrested more often than whites and others for drug possession in large part because of questionable police practices.

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The report, which advocates the decriminalization of small quantities of illegal drugs intended for personal use, found that while whites are more likely than blacks to use illicit drugs — including marijuana, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and prescription drugs for nonmedical purposes — black adults were more than two-and-a-half times as likely to be arrested.

i voted to legalize this year.

 

[Tater]

 

[Mole]

Arrests for possessing small amounts of marijuana exceeded those for all violent crimes last year, a new study has found, even as social attitudes toward the drug have changed and a number of cities and states have legalized its use or decriminalized small quantities.

And a disproportionate number of those arrested are African-Americans, who smoke marijuana at rates similar to whites but are arrested and prosecuted far more often for having small amounts for personal use, according to the study. The arrests can overwhelm court systems.

This is simply parochial. No one gets arrested on this Continent of Australia for possessing marijuana. And this Continent has no problems in integrating African-Americans into our society.

The USA contains only 4.4 percent of the world's population. Yet parochial Americans think it is the whole world. Yet 95.6 percent of the world is not American.

Who would guess this is an international site?

 

[Mole]

The Department of Housing of the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) formed a criminal partnership with the criminally convicted ACT IV (intravenous) League, and they employed children to deliver heroin door to door at Fraser Court, Kingston, ACT. And they did this because children couldn't be charged.

This is egregious child abuse which has been covered up ever since, and anyone who tries to bring Housing before the Courts is harassed.

And I might say, to justify the criminal use of drugs to young teenagers on Typology Central also is egregious child abuse.

 

[Coriolis]

On Typology Central we are in loco parentis to young teenagers.

Actually, we are not. This is a legal designation that properly belongs to school staff, babysitters, scout leaders, and others in whose physical custody parents leave their children for a time. That transfer of authority never happens here. This means our responsibility to give good advice to our younger members and to maintain a wholesome environment for them may be a moral one, but isn't a legal one. Actually, we should provide the same to our members of all ages.