Psychopathology and Drugs

[Mole]

This is really offensive and belittling to those with mental illness.

Taking offence is a tactic of the Left and Islamism.

And as there is no free speech without the freedom to offend, we see the Left and the Islamists have politically joined against free speech.

And worse, they both play identity politics, in this case using the mentally ill for political purposes.

 

[á´…eparted]

Taking offence is a tactic of the Left and Islamism.

And as there is no free speech without the freedom to offend, we see the Left and the Islamists have politically joined against free speech.

And worse, they both play identity politics, in this case using the mentally ill for political purposes.

I have bipolar disorder type II. Are you telling me that I have no right to be offended that you just said I and others like me self medicate using illicit drugs so I don't need to deal with my problems? You do not know what I do to deal with my mental ailments. I work really fucking hard to keep myself stable and healthy.

There's no political drive here. It's quite simple: you have no right or valid reason to demean those with mental illnesses. It's a medical problem, and you have no valid base for dismissing their issues. That is unless, you were a liscened doctor or liscened psychologist.

I suggest you take back what you said.

 

[miss fortune]

And worse, they both play identity politics, in this case using the mentally ill for political purposes.

and here you're using the mentally ill to support your own agenda... meaning you're no better than anyone who you're putting down in this thread

I'd suggest dropping it, because you're treading dangerously close to the line on a few rules (such as insulting entire groups of people) and I wouldn't suggest crossing it

 

[LovecraftianMonstrosity]

We know that those suffering from a mental illness medicate their symptoms with drugs. This has the effect of not dealing with the illness. This enables the illness to continue and worsen.

And we know a large number take drugs to hide their sexual inhibitions. And as our psychosexual development depends on negotiating a balance between desire and inhibition, we fail the window of opportunity to achieve a mature balance between our desire and our inhibition.

And it is this immaturity that feeds our cultural narcissism.

No, I think it is more likely a generational conflict where the old use "morality" to denigrate the young though they act far more callously and cruelly in order to justify stealing the youth, resources, opportunity, and energy of the young in order to channel it into the directions that they desire, but they are too self-serving or blind to see that their equation is simply incorrect.

Sometimes giving out condoms *gasp* cuts STD rates, sometimes giving heroin addicts clean needles *gasp* prevents HIV, etc

It's just that many people can't math so they fall back on ancient superstitions that actually don't work at all because that is all they can understand

 

[meowington]

Taking offence is a tactic of the Left and Islamism.

The fuck did I just read ?

 

[á´…eparted]

The fuck did I just read ?

Right? It's even stranger given Mole is one of the most easily offended people on the forum.

 

[prplchknz]

Right? It's even stranger given Mole is one of the most easily offended people on the forum.

No its not considering he insults and ad homeins others but complain when others do the same

 

[Typh0n]

What Mole said was not offensive but idiotic.

I've had mental illness, anxiety disorders and depression, and I don't find what he said offensive, merely ignorant. I don't see how saying "We know that those suffering from a mental illness medicate their symptoms with drugs", consitutes targeting a group of people, [MENTION=20829]Hard[/MENTION] you yourself admit you do this, the problem with Mole's post is that its a value judgement, as if there was something wrong with doing this in itself.

There is a difference between taking a remark personally and I don't take Mole's remarks personally, since they're not aimed at me (or anyone else fotr that matter) just as a sign that the guy is ignorant on this subject.

 

[á´…eparted]

What Mole said was not offensive but idiotic.

I've had mental illness, anxiety disorders and depression, and I don't find what he said offensive, merely ignorant. I don't see how saying "We know that those suffering from a mental illness medicate their symptoms with drugs", consitutes targeting a group of people, [MENTION=20829]Hard[/MENTION] you yourself admit you do this, the problem with Mole's post is that its a value judgement, as if there was something wrong with doing this in itself.

There is a difference between taking a remark personally and I don't take Mole's remarks personally, since they're not aimed at me (or anyone else fotr that matter) just as a sign that the guy is ignorant on this subject.

Just because you don't think it's offensive doesn't mean it isn't offensive to others, or that it isn't offensive overall.

And no I do not take recreational drugs to self medicate or escape my life. I take medical drugs to manage my mental ailments, but those are prescribed.

 

[Typh0n]

Just because you don't think it's offensive doesn't mean it isn't offensive to others, or that it isn't offensive overall.

Yeah I know. But you know my reaction isn't worth less. I feel your response is a bit dismissive.

I'm just saying, I'm not worried that Mole will spread his ideas in a way that harms either those with mental illness or recreational drug users, that would only be a concern if his ideas were taken seriously...which thankfully they aeren't.

And yeah, about the last bit: people shouldn't normally take drugs to deal with mental illness unless it is prescibed, you're right. Unless of course the miracle drug happens to be illegal for sale, and you need it for medical reasons...

 

[á´…eparted]

Yeah I know.

I'm just saying, I'm not worried that Mole will spread his ideas in a way that harms either those with mental illness or recreational drug users, that would only be a concern if his ideas were taken seriously...which thankfully they aeren't.

And yeah, about the last bit: people shouldn't normally take drugs to deal with mental illness unless it is prescibed, you're right. Unless of course the miracle drug happens to be illegal for sale, and you need it for medical reasons...

I am not worried either, but that doesn't matter. It's still wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.

 

[Typh0n]

I am not worried either, but that doesn't matter. It's still wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.

Just to be clear: what do you find wrong about Mole's posts? Is it the content? The way in which it is said? Is it because it stigmatizes a group of people (you say) or is it because his reasoning is wrong? Because I do think his reasoning is wrong, which doesn't mean "it shouldn't be tolerated". Now, if he's stigmatizing people who suffer from mental illness (which a case can be made for looking at this thread), then I would agree that shouldn't be tolerated.

But let's be clear what we're talking about here.

 

[á´…eparted]

Just to be clear: what do you find worng about Mole's posts? Is it the content? The way in which it is said? Is it because it stigmatizes a group of people (you say) or is it because his reasoning is wrong? Because I do think his reasoning is wrong, which doesn't mean "it shouldn't be tolerated". Now, if he's stigmatizing people who suffer from mental illness (which a case can be made for looking at this thread), then I would agree that shouldn't be tolerated.

But let's be clear what we're talking about here.

If you have to ask, you'll never know. I am not interested in getting into this. Sorry.

 

[Typh0n]

If you have to ask, you'll never know. I am not interested in getting into this. Sorry.

Yeah? Well I feel you're being very dismissive, especially for a guy who raised concerns about the subject earlier.

 

[Mole]

The fuck did I just read ?

Why not spend a bit more time on campus?

 

[Mole]

Sometimes giving out condoms *gasp* cuts STD rates, sometimes giving heroin addicts clean needles *gasp* prevents HIV, etc

It's just that many people can't math so they fall back on ancient superstitions that actually don't work at all because that is all they can understand

Our whole Continent has a government funded program to provide free condoms, and this very same Continent has a government funded program to provide free needles, and as well we provide free injecting rooms staffed with a medical attendant.

We abandoned ancient superstitions at our founding because we were founded by the Scottish and English Enlightenment, where the USA was founded by Puritan superstition.

And this ancient tradition of superstition is carried on in mbti, right here, under our noses.

 

[á´…eparted]

Our whole Continent has a government funded program to provide free condoms, and this very same Continent has a government funded program to provide free needles, and as well we provide free injecting rooms staffed with a medical attendant.

We abandoned ancient superstitions at our founding because we were founded by the Scottish and English Enlightenment, where the USA was founded by Puritan superstition.

And this ancient tradition of superstition is carried on in mbti, right here, under our noses.

You can't even stay on topic in your own damn thread . Guess you've given up on the subject and are shifting gears to shit on something else?

 

[Mole]

and here you're using the mentally ill to support your own agenda... meaning you're no better than anyone who you're putting down in this thread

I'd suggest dropping it, because you're treading dangerously close to the line on a few rules (such as insulting entire groups of people) and I wouldn't suggest crossing it

I volunteer every week to work with the mentally ill in the Psychiatic Unit of my local hospital, and have done so for a quarter of a century.

I am quite prepared to be judged by what I do, do you?

 

[miss fortune]

I volunteer every week to work with the mentally ill in the Psychiatic Unit of my local hospital, and have done so for a quarter of a century.

I am quite prepared to be judged by what I do, do you?

I know who I am

and I know what I am

 

[Mole]

I know who I am

and I know what I am

And yet you are quite prepared to join the bullies on Typology Central and continue the bullying of Mole.

If you were genuinely interested in your own psyche, you might ask what is the attraction?