I said Gamma for you because you've written your own good descriptions of the quadrants, and you fit one of them. Specifically the ones in the Quadra Behavior thread, which I agree with on Gamma having a subdued but intimate nature and a focus on practical things that can be done to send resources into an envisioned future. Where you use yourself as an example of these traits is in line with what I've already observed seeing you around here, and makes me confident in that quadrant for you, though I sympathize with you not being set on a particular Gamma type. Your versions of the other three quadrants, on the other hand, sound almost ridiculously unlike you, though Beta is the least egregious in this respect.
Basically: Gamma is where *your own* well thought out concepts of the quadrants place you, and when self-typing, your own understanding is the last word. I realize it's stale information, but it's what I was thinking back there.
Now, why don't you rule out ESI like you do ILI?
Right. I don't think I can find any better fit other than Gamma, even after reading and digesting other descriptions on wiki and on other forums.
While I understand the concept, I don't quite understand how myself fits into a particular type. It's one of the liabilities of being 3w4, because with my friends I can seem pretty wild and outgoing, yet at work I'm incredibly task oriented and objective. Even on this forum, I'm not THAT chummy with people except a select few, and you always see me pushing for evidence or clarifications.
I guess that is where the confusion is at.
I kept ESI for consideration because I find that my judgments of things, people and experiences are closer to an ESI than an SEE. The former is more rigid about its judgments, and I find that I hardly change my mind about things once I've decided what this thing, person or experience means to me. I'm not like an SEE in the sense that I can turn on or off these judgments.
ILI is out because
PoLR is extremely unlike me. I know 3 ILIs IRL and they are deadpan. I went to a concert with one and she just stood there while I was dancing relentlessly to the music.
At the moment, I can kind of see LIE for myself because of the things I've described above, but I wonder if I'm too expressive. I do relate to this part of
role, however:
LIEs make an effort to adapt to the prevailing emotional atmosphere, especially in group situations, and try to promote a positive emotional environment, as in making positive or witty remarks, in the presence of individuals they are already somewhat acquainted with and appreciate; or in purely professional meetings or short-lived social encounters, they are aware of the need to put up a friendly and polite facade. Such efforts, however, are normally low-key and of short duration; it is difficult for them to display emotions more complex or intense with any enthusiasm. They are essentially unable to participate in a group atmosphere where intense emotional expression, as in loud laughing and mutual jokes, are prevailing, for any extended period of time. LIEs make an effort to be aware of the need not to disrupt the prevailing emotional atmosphere, but they do not succeed for any length of time if that would clash with their inner emotional state and private feelings about the other persons present.
I went out with a group of friends from different quadras last night, there were 6 of us including myself. It was very
in the sense that we were loud and talking about things that fed the ridiculous atmosphere, where we were loud, boisterous and generally being a public nuisance because we kept disturbing handsome guys be it on the sidewalk or the restaurant. They love to catcall these men and objectify them (which I found extremely hilarious) and point them towards who were potentially interested in these guys, and unsurprisingly, I got most of the caucasian men.
When this happens I'm extremely flustered and uncomfortable, and like I pretended to not know them. Aside from that, when we were just hanging around, I was easily the quietest because I'm just not very good at controlling the atmosphere or conversation. Most times, I often get ignored when I speak.
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Look lady...I've already fuckin done that for you. Would you like me to connect you to some posts? Ungrateful fuck.
Sure.