Legitimate Type Me Thread

[Captain_Invincible]

Mexico.

OK. Give me a specific example of such a desired outcome of things that you focus on.

[This is off the top of my head btw]
Let's say I am looking to run a project and organize a music gig for my school (in a concert hall):
-How long will it be?
-What budget do I have?
-Is there going to be a break and tuck shop there to raise money?
-Who is my charity and what %age they are getting off the profits (if donating).
-What resources I need.
-What people I need to help me set up, what acts I need to fill slots etc.
-What to say to them to convince them to join.
-What songs they are playing to fill their slots.
-When to set my back-up plan into action (if the first one goes tits-up).
-When to improvise (if everything goes horribly wrong).
-Who's sitting where? (Seating plan).
-How much tickets are?

I would stick as close as I could to the outcome (the concert), but also what I need to do to make it happen properly.

"At times" in your first sentence. I noticed F types call themselves cold in those moments. As a contrast, I don't feel cold, when I'm focusing on impersonal logic. It's just normal neutral. I find it funny how the F types call that cold.

I was generalizing when I called it 'cold' because that is what the majority of people call it when I don't show emotions, and I myself don't actually feel cold when I do logic. I actually don't consider it cold as such myself. I just consider it doing the sensible thing. Common sense.

Sounds like a lot of enneagram differences mixed in here.

Probably is. I never have gotten the stereotypes of enneagram, and have never actually fit any of them. This is why I have had trouble typing myself, but I have researched everything and thought about it and agreed I am 378 in some order.

I know a few ENFJ's, this description doesn't exactly fit some of them. The parts on being so overly incredibly social and extraverted and pleasant at all times. Your friend could also be an ESFJ.

Nah, he doesn't use much Si at all, if any. He seems to be focused a lot more toward the N side of things. And also, I have typed him as ENFJ 3w2 so/sx if that helps any. It makes the most sense for him and as to why he would [want to] appear socially extroverted and pleasant.

 

[existence]

That's how I have came to the conclusion that I am using Te over Fe.

And why Ni over Se?

 

[Captain_Invincible]

And why Ni over Se?

Because I don't always live purely within the present moment and experience it unfiltered? And I don't always get up and go do things within those moments with those resources without them having an actual purpose i.e. fulfilling a previously planned goal. Or something productive like organizing my books into alphabetical order in order to save space. I don't know, unless I am having an extreme misunderstanding of the functions, then I doubt I use Se as my primary mode of operating. I know I use it, but not as a primary mode of operation. I am here, but I'm not here, if you understand me.

I can live in the present moment, but I don't unless I have to. If I am crossing the road, I want to make sure that I am alert enough not to get killed, or when I'm playing a game that requires my full concentration like dodge-ball. I can do it, but if I have other things to do outside that present moment, I won't do it. I will need to concentrate on those. They take preference over living in the moment.

 

[existence]

-What people I need to help me set up, what acts I need to fill slots etc.
-What to say to them to convince them to join.
-When to improvise (if everything goes horribly wrong).

Say more on these three. How you do these things, examples, details, anecdote that actually happened, etc.

Because I don't always live purely within the present moment and experience it unfiltered? And I don't always get up and go do things within those moments with those resources without them having an actual purpose i.e. fulfilling a previously planned goal. Or something productive like organizing my books into alphabetical order in order to save space. I don't know, unless I am having an extreme misunderstanding of the functions, then I doubt I use Se as my primary mode of operating. I know I use it, but not as a primary mode of operation. I am here, but I'm not here, if you understand me.

I can live in the present moment, but I don't unless I have to. If I am crossing the road, I want to make sure that I am alert enough not to get killed, or when I'm playing a game that requires my full concentration like dodge-ball. I can do it, but if I have other things to do outside that present moment, I won't do it. I will need to concentrate on those. They take preference over living in the moment.

OK. Though the first part of this sounds like you are idealizing Se base a bit. Also, being productive, organizing books, is more like T stuff.

 

[existence]

Been busy. Be back in a couple weeks.

If you still want to do this, feel free to let me know, I'm still here.

 

[Sil]

If you still want to do this, feel free to let me know, I'm still here.

I don't even remember where we left off. Was I last considering ENFJ?

 

[EJCC]

I don't even remember where we left off. Was I last considering ENFJ?

^ Yes. IIRC most folks in the thread thought you seemed ENFJ.

 

[Sil]

^ Yes. IIRC most folks in the thread thought you seemed ENFJ.

Yeah, that's definitely wrong. I am not a Fe-dom by a long shot.

What would help jumpstart the discussion?

 

[EJCC]

Yeah, that's definitely wrong. I am not a Fe-dom by a long shot.

What would help jumpstart the discussion?

Perhaps giving a good, definitive reason for ruling out Fe-dom? I'm guessing a major reason why the discussion hasn't been jumpstarted is that the majority opinion has been ignored with little to no reason given.

 

[Sil]

Perhaps giving a good, definitive reason for ruling out Fe-dom? I'm guessing a major reason why the discussion hasn't been jumpstarted is that the majority opinion has been ignored with little to no reason given.

Sure. Let me look through the thread and respond.

 

[Sil]

Perhaps giving a good, definitive reason for ruling out Fe-dom? I'm guessing a major reason why the discussion hasn't been jumpstarted is that the majority opinion has been ignored with little to no reason given.

It appears I did reply at length to ENFJ and gave reasons why it didn't fit. Was there a reason my original response did not suffice?

 

[Sil]

Also, I'm more likely an Ne user than an Ni user. Ne seeks possibilities, which is something I do with high regularity.

Regarding Te, I believe my conversation style (especially online) isTe heavy, but I don't know if I would agree I use Te. I've actually been leaning more Ti recently based on a change in understanding about how it works.

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On my own I've been weighing ENTP, which I think accounts for the heavy Ne use.

 

[Sil]

Fe and Fi are still on the fence, but likely low in either case. Definitely not in the upper half of the cog functions.

Se and Si are probably the hardest to distinguish, as after review, I don't think I'm terribly good at either. But that's viewing Si as relating to thinks like comfort and physical relationships with the external world.

 

[Sil]

Fe is people focused, with an eye for larger good as well as group dynamic. As I understand it, a strong Fe user knows how to direct and move people as needed if they feel it is for the right purpose.

For me, relationships (individual and group based) are my Achilles heel. They are the area I completely fail at and struggle to maintain. It's not a matter or lacking some social skill or an ability to present one's self in a likeable fashion. I'm quite good at both of those (for the most part). But I tend to overlook, miss, or otherwise ignore relationship dynamics. Is is the theme to many of my life mistakes.

Unless we believe that a Fe user can lack a focus on people, then Fe is not possible.

 

[chubber]

so you have a little bit of e4 in you?

 

[EJCC]

Also, I'm more likely an Ne user than an Ni user. Ne seeks possibilities, which is something I do with high regularity.

Regarding Te, I believe my conversation style (especially online) isTe heavy, but I don't know if I would agree I use Te. I've actually been leaning more Ti recently based on a change in understanding about how it works.

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On my own I've been weighing ENTP, which I think accounts for the heavy Ne use.

That would make sense, and would explain what I perceive in you as very low Sensing and basically no Te.

 

[Sil]

That would make sense, and would explain what I perceive in you as very low Sensing and basically no Te.

For my own knowledge, what to you is a clear lack of Te?

 

[EJCC]

For my own knowledge, what to you is a clear lack of Te?

Nothing about the way our communication has gone seems Te. Your communication style doesn't resonate with me. I don't really see Je-first either, which I guess is an argument against ENFJ as well. We disagree on most things in the "Ask an ESTJ" thread, whether they're Si-related or Te-related. My arguments don't convince you, and yours don't convince me either.

I see you as either an Ni-user, a Ti-user, or both. Beyond that I don't know.

 

[Sil]

Nothing about the way our communication has gone seems Te. Your communication style doesn't resonate with me. I don't really see Je-first either, which I guess is an argument against ENFJ as well. We disagree on most things in the "Ask an ESTJ" thread, whether they're Si-related or Te-related. My arguments don't convince you, and yours don't convince me either.

I see you as either an Ni-user, a Ti-user, or both. Beyond that I don't know.

Hmm, sounds like you perceive some friction in our communication styles.

 

[EJCC]

Hmm, sounds like you perceive some friction in our communication styles.

Yeah -- type-related friction, specifically. A total absence of the "click" I feel with other xxTJs.