Why is pretty much everything related to gender in media bashing men? and....

[Nicodemus]

the boy should be forced to marry the girl. ideally they should marry and then have sex and the baby. and if it was rape he should get life in prison or death penalty.

There we have the source of all confusion: religion. Once you get over it, your life will be a lot easier. Give it a try.

 

[Peter Deadpan]

 

[Warrior]

Black and Latino CEOS are also small minorities, and they are significantly underrepresented in STEM fields. Are you going to attribute that to innate preferences, too? When all artificial barriers to people's entry into nontraditional fields and occupations have been eliminated, I will accept that disparities in numbers result from personal choice and inclination.


How about the mistake the boy made? Or do you put all the blame for unwanted pregnancy on females? It takes two to tango.

that indeed is due to historical racism, but here lies the problem. men and women are different, and when you treat them as the same, and leave them alone for too long, it causes problems, like sexual harassment in workplaces. i dont care how many laws you put in place, men (or women) bosses will continue their shit. but race is a social construct, and we should not make distinction based along "race" or ethnicity, because people deserve to exist.

 

[Yuurei]

yeah! And while we’re at it why oh WHY do people stereotype Muslims as sexist?! I can’t imagine!

Oh Lawdy..

 

[Warrior]

There we have the source of all confusion: religion. Once you get over it, your life will be a lot easier. Give it a try.

as one website advised pretend to be a liberal alongside the professor and classmates (who, I know realize, may also be crypto-Conservatives), and your life will be alot easier. ill try to avoid commenting on political matters because it appears the section of the population seeking (often psychological) help on forums has a strong liberal bias.

 

[Warrior]

yeah! And while we’re at it why oh WHY do people stereotype Muslims as sexist?! I can’t imagine!

Oh Lawdy..

actually to be fair mainstream islam believes babies dont have souls until after 4 months. i was just playing devils advocate and a little mix of what i read on a salafi website (and i myself am not a salafi because they are too extreme)

 

[Nicodemus]

as one website advised pretend to be a liberal alongside the professor and classmates (who, I know realize, may also be crypto-Conservatives), and your life will be alot easier. ill try to avoid commenting on political matters because it appears the section of the population seeking (often psychological) help on forums has a strong liberal bias.

Ridding yourself of religious nonsense is not a question of political orientation or social lubrication but of mental hygiene.

 

[Warrior]

Abortion law in Muslim-majority countries: an overview of the Islamic discourse with policy implications. - PubMed - NCBI

good read by a medical ethics and medical site

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Ridding yourself of religious nonsense is not a question of political orientation or social lubrication but of mental hygiene.

i did not use a single religious argument. youre reading too much into the pudding.

 

[Nicodemus]

i did not use a single religious argument. youre reading too much into the pudding.

You didn't have to be explicit to be understood.

 

[Warrior]

all i know is religion has saved me from suicide more times than i can count. i would be a dead porn addict right now if it weren't for religion. EDIT: and it's brought me meaning and joy and inner peace such that nothing else has. and hope. how can you defeat someone who views oppression as a chance to grow and get your prayers answered, or suffering and illness as a chance to grow closer to your creator and get your more good deeds?

 

[Warrior]

You didn't have to be explicit to be understood.

what do you believe, ive been talking about me too long. what are your thoughts on the meaning of life? i need to know who im talking to. and i feel arrogant.

 

[Nicodemus]

what do you believe, ive been talking about me too long. what are your thoughts on the meaning of life? i need to know who im talking to. and i feel arrogant.

I believe a lot of things - for example, that, generally speaking, big cocks are better small ones, that the earth orbits the sun, that rap is pretty overrated, and that Mitch McConnell would sell his own mother to stay in power. As for the meaning of life? There is none. Happiness is the highest aspiration. So you make the best of your time on this planet, because it ends with death and will never come again.

 

[Sacrophagus]

all i know is religion has saved me from suicide more times than i can count. i would be a dead porn addict right now if it weren't for religion. EDIT: and it's brought me meaning and joy and inner peace such that nothing else has. and hope. how can you defeat someone who views oppression as a chance to grow and get your prayers answered, or suffering and illness as a chance to grow closer to your creator and get your more good deeds?

Understood, but that is your subjective reality.

Religion is something that ideally concerns you. Brush its teachings on people, whether understood the right or wrong way, and you will only make your arguments wielded against you. Speak a language that others can understand in objectivity and you will have a better discussion.

Ridding yourself of religious nonsense is not a question of political orientation or social lubrication but of mental hygiene.

It is also of mental hygiene to not spew dogmatic drivel that dictates what someone should believe in on a personal level. That is being no better than an extremist fool.

 

[Nicodemus]

It is also of mental hygiene to not spew dogmatic drivel that dictates what someone should believe in on a personal level. That is being no better than an extremist fool.

Good thing nobody did anything like that then, I suppose.

 

[Earl Grey]

yeah! And while we’re at it why oh WHY do people stereotype Muslims as sexist?! I can’t imagine!

Oh Lawdy..

I laughed so hard because I grew among Buddhists, various Christians, Orthodox Catholics, Muslims, and Hindus, and for some blinding reason ime the ones that find women so icky are Muslims, right up there with Mormon Catholics. I guess something about virgin women being 'worthier' 'prizes' in heaven and being hyped as motivation does something about it. There's also Buddhists with the weird 'you're born a lady because you had worse karma' + Siddhartha Gautama himself being 'nyope' when women first asked to be baptized as bhikkhuni but that's an OOT rant for another day.


I don't judge folks based off their religion alone but OP man oh my man, folks like you aren't helping the bad image you're promoting for those who aren't as patient as I in leafing through the giant haystack. How about you think for a moment and try apply those standards you are applying to others, onto yourself? Maybe you'll somehow put two and two together and manage to see how ridiculous they are.

Don't quote me. Or do so- your wish. I won't respond to you.

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EDIT: 'Devil's advocate'? You are not playing devil's advocate if you do so by twisting the facts, especially those of your opponent's in a debate. If you really want to play that game you've lost from square one.

 

[Coriolis]

that indeed is due to historical racism, but here lies the problem. men and women are different, and when you treat them as the same, and leave them alone for too long, it causes problems, like sexual harassment in workplaces. i dont care how many laws you put in place, men (or women) bosses will continue their shit. but race is a social construct, and we should not make distinction based along "race" or ethnicity, because people deserve to exist.

I see. So you think historical prejudice is a deterrent to Blacks and Latinos, but not to women? The same sorts of barriers and discouragements have served to limit the opportunities available to all three groups, and others. Not long ago, women were barred from medical schools, and considered unfit/incapable of serving as doctors. Now, they are reaching parity among doctors, and outnumber men among young/new doctors. A similar trend is evident with the legal profession.

Race may be a social construct, but if there were no differences among whites, blacks, and latinos, discrimination would not be possible because we could not determine group membership. Yes, skin pigmentation, though an obvious physical difference, is irrelevant in nearly all cases. The thing is, which set of genitalia we have is equally irrelevant in academic and professional contexts. Men and women are far more similar to each other than they are different, sharing a basic common humanity. Extrapolating from the statistically observable physiological differences to assert what men or women can, should, or prefer to do is unsupportable and irresponsible. Sexual harassment flows directly from the very double standards you claim are unavoidable, not from treating men and women "the same". Eliminate the double standards and the resulting power imbalance, and encourage/expect people to treat everyone first and foremost simply as a human being, entitled to the same basic respect regardless of who they are and which group(s) they fall into.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

mohammed was a chick

 

[Warrior]

I see. So you think historical prejudice is a deterrent to Blacks and Latinos, but not to women? The same sorts of barriers and discouragements have served to limit the opportunities available to all three groups, and others. Not long ago, women were barred from medical schools, and considered unfit/incapable of serving as doctors. Now, they are reaching parity among doctors, and outnumber men among young/new doctors. A similar trend is evident with the legal profession.

Race may be a social construct, but if there were no differences among whites, blacks, and latinos, discrimination would not be possible because we could not determine group membership. Yes, skin pigmentation, though an obvious physical difference, is irrelevant in nearly all cases. The thing is, which set of genitalia we have is equally irrelevant in academic and professional contexts. Men and women are far more similar to each other than they are different, sharing a basic common humanity. Extrapolating from the statistically observable physiological differences to assert what men or women can, should, or prefer to do is unsupportable and irresponsible.

yes but allowing women to serve in the medical field and that sort of thing is no longer what feminists seek. in order to continue to hold down a job at their feminist organizations and preserve their organizations (one of my old professors taught me something ill never forget, the duty of any bureacracy is to ensure it stays in practice forever somehow), they expanded it to vaguer definitions of sexism. yes, sweden has a 50 50 male and female politician rate in their national parliament. (or some other scandinavian country, im pretty sure it was sweden). this is progressive sure, but is it economic? no. (hdp party in turkey does this too, within their party, but also 10 percent quote for lgbt, but i commend them for other things). you can not control the market for politicians in such a way that 50 percent of the qualified and publically desired candidates will be 50 percent all the time. some days it will be 43 percent, some days 47 percent, some days 59 percent, some days 52 percent. it is as irrational as controlling prices with rent control. when we know in economics that rent control increases the prices of rent and decreases the quantity and quality of available LEGAL rent (excluding black market). now, i may have detracted from the point because i am having some problems today and i kinda decided to play devils advocate/arguing monkey, but this brings up a valid point. forget abortions, but for the record im not against abortions, because i cant enforce my religious views down other peoples throats. and that's essentially where the argument comes from. and in my case, a desire to bring in a conservative perspective and see how people react. apparently, not well. but one must not ignore human nature. artificially imposing intellectual arguments on a method of living, can sometimes backfire, because while it pays to have progressive fighters fighting on the front lines of society to ensure better quality food, air, water, working conditions, hours, etc. sometimes, not everyone is intellectual. it's like asking a farmer in the us and a phd student in the us to have a lengthy intelelctual discussion and not be family. i got off track, but in other words, sometimes you need to let things be, like the dao. sensors often have it right. an intp that is me often thinks too far into future scenarios without thinking to study for that exam that will get him that finance job. people are a product of their environment, and asking a 10 year old to think about justice and equality by studying chemistry is just gonna confuse them further (though i dont know any 10 year olds' opinion or any 10 year old to be honest, just my intuition, and remembering what i was like when i was 10 and everyone else when they were 10). people are a product of their environment, and by creating a norm, you create a counter reaction, which outdoes the reality of the intended effect. karma. if only we can stay steady. think about it, if you can build a machine (bad example) that can lift 5,000 pounds a day in 2000, but 50,000 in 2050, people extend your workload, and people just keep creating children, and the technology increases, i mean do you honestly think life is easier other than with medicine than it was in the past? sure lgbt rights, womens rights, racial rights, but history is cyclical, not linear, the problems just continue under different names. sorry, keyboard diarrhea. EDIT: also, where does the sexual liberation end? where are we gonna be 500 years from now? even 10 years from now at this rate? 10 years ago we were talking about bullying of gays and gays coming out of the closet, then we have transgenders, then wer have celebration of transgenders, (kardashians kaitlyn jenner) then we have professors saying blacks cant be racist and changing the definition of racism, and now we have my socio class discussing in unision that weneed to ban men's and women's sports and make a unified nfl and nba to accomodate trans and intersex people. (one conservative broke out in protest, but was quickly dismissed)

mohammed was a chick

im not quite sure how to respond to that, but youre free to believe that, buddy.

 

[Warrior]

I laughed so hard because I grew among Buddhists, various Christians, Orthodox Catholics, Muslims, and Hindus, and for some blinding reason ime the ones that find women so icky are Muslims, right up there with Mormon Catholics. I guess something about virgin women being 'worthier' 'prizes' in heaven and being hyped as motivation does something about it. There's also Buddhists with the weird 'you're born a lady because you had worse karma' + Siddhartha Gautama himself being 'nyope' when women first asked to be baptized as bhikkhuni but that's an OOT rant for another day.


I don't judge folks based off their religion alone but OP man oh my man, folks like you aren't helping the bad image you're promoting for those who aren't as patient as I in leafing through the giant haystack. How about you think for a moment and try apply those standards you are applying to others, onto yourself? Maybe you'll somehow put two and two together and manage to see how ridiculous they are.

Don't quote me. Or do so- your wish. I won't respond to you.

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EDIT: 'Devil's advocate'? You are not playing devil's advocate if you do so by twisting the facts, especially those of your opponent's in a debate. If you really want to play that game you've lost from square one.

why is it so repulsive to point out that women can hate men? hate is hate! and why i am being called sexist for holding a position half the us population and billions of people on this globe hold?

 

[Warrior]

U.S. Abortion Attitudes Remain Closely Divided