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You aren't an INFP.

Snickie

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What makes an INFP an INFP? Because I've finally mostly accepted that I'm a stronger Ne-Si user than a Se-Ni user, and I'm sure there's a handful of people here who think I'm Fi-dom rather than Ti-dom (one of my irl best friends included, which I found interesting, though she also did the exercise wrong and labelled me with Fi Ti Se Ne in that order).
 

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You might be an ISFP. :unsure:
 

Snickie

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The artistry (music and drawing mainly) aspect might make me seem that way, but I don't think that's how I approach it at all. I don't draw as a means of expressing myself (that's what writing is for, and only when I am so compelled), and I have a stupidly emotionally void approach to learning music (i.e. I play "like a robot" unless I somehow manage to form some kind of emotional connection to the music that isn't completely based in sarcasm-masked hatred for the piece). Who knows though.

NP people can be artistic too, right?
 

Kingu Kurimuzon

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The artistry (music and drawing mainly) aspect might make me seem that way, but I don't think that's how I approach it at all. I don't draw as a means of expressing myself (that's what writing is for, and only when I am so compelled), and I have a stupidly emotionally void approach to learning music (i.e. I play "like a robot" unless I somehow manage to form some kind of emotional connection to the music that isn't completely based in sarcasm-masked hatred for the piece). Who knows though.

NP people can be artistic too, right?

Any type can be artistic.
 

Snickie

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My point. :3

I refuse to believe that I am an INFP.
 

fetus

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What makes an INFP an INFP? Because I've finally mostly accepted that I'm a stronger Ne-Si user than a Se-Ni user, and I'm sure there's a handful of people here who think I'm Fi-dom rather than Ti-dom (one of my irl best friends included, which I found interesting, though she also did the exercise wrong and labelled me with Fi Ti Se Ne in that order).

This is what I wonder. I know what Si and Fe are, and what Fi and Ne aren't...but are Fi and Ne?
 

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In my high school psych class, here are the definitions:

I - After a bad day, 20 minutes of alone time before talking to anyone
E - Calling everyone

S - Going by facts and believing when they see it
N - Not needing proof to believe something

F - Doing what feels right
T - Doing what makes sense

J - Organized
P - Disorganized

We had to do a project explaining which type we are and justification for each letter. It was painful. By the shitty definitions, I'm an InFP. So that's what I said.

It was really difficult, actually. My deeper knowledge interfered with the project, and I had to pretend I didn't know. If I'd tried to put down something different, with even a semblance of accuracy, I would've been downgraded.

Not to mention we got into all that left brain/right brain stuff. :doh:

I like it, it's good. Just the S/N, I'm not so sure about that...can you give me an example? Because...for instance, "God". Many S believe in God. With no proof. And many N don't believe in God. I don't know.
 

Snickie

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I like it, it's good. Just the S/N, I'm not so sure about that...can you give me an example? Because...for instance, "God". Many S believe in God. With no proof. And many N don't believe in God. I don't know.

I'm going to take a moment to be slightly :offtopic: and disagree with you there. While evidence and non-evidence may be gathered by P functions, they are judged by J functions. As you said, there are S types that believe in God, but the proof you consider to be nonexistent might be judged by someone else to exist. Just because one didn't physically see God create things doesn't mean they weren't created by him. Just because I've never seen Africa for myself doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've never seen the wind; I've seen the effects of the wind but I've never seen the wind. Some people will take the effects as proof of the original phenomenon. And some won't or will seek to attribute it to something else.
In the end, though, it is a leap of faith, whether you're N or S, or T or F.
 
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You don't have to an INFP to be a freewheeling dreamer with flowers in your hair and a romantic navelgazer who likes to journal, write fiction, and stare at passing clouds. :)

One online acquaintance of mine who openly identifies like this is an ISFJ. Hippie vegetarian environmentalist with a passion for fantasy. If anything, Si might be more inclined to that sort of stuff, since it's a perceiving function... :blush:

I actually think INFPs might be less "feelery and carefree" than people make them out to be. I actually know an INFP 9w1 who's very stoic and unfeeling. Kind, yes. Feeling, no.

They are. The weepy, hypersensitive Fi stereotype is annoying and false. Like, literally wrong if you just read the infamous chapter 10 of Psychological Types:

Jung on Introverted Feeling said:
One may even be made to feel the superfluousness of one's own existence. In the presence of something that might carry one away or arouse enthusiasm, this type observes a benevolent neutrality, tempered with an occasional trace of superiority and criticism that soon takes the wind out of the sails of a sensitive object. But a stormy emotion will be brusquely rejected with murderous coldness, unless it happens to catch the subject from the side of the unconscious, i.e. unless, through the animation of some primordial image, feeling is, as it were, taken captive. In which event such a woman simply feels a momentary laming, invariably producing, in due course, a still more violent resistance, which reaches the object in his most vulnerable spot. The relation to the object is, as far as possible, kept in a secure and tranquil middle state of feeling, where passion and its intemperateness are resolutely proscribed. Expression of feeling, therefore, remains niggardly and, when once aware of it at all, the object has a permanent sense of his undervaluation. Such, however, is not always the case, since very often the deficit remains unconscious; whereupon the unconscious feeling-claims gradually produce symptoms which compel a more serious attention.

A superficial judgment might well be betrayed, by a rather cold and reserved demeanour, into denying all feeling to this type. Such a view, however, would be quite false; the truth is, her feelings are intensive rather than extensive. They develop into the depth. Whereas, for instance, an extensive feeling of sympathy can express itself in both word and deed at the right place, thus quickly ridding itself of its impression, an intensive sympathy, because shut off from every means of expression, gains a passionate depth that embraces the misery of a world and is simply benumbed. It may possibly make an extravagant irruption, leading to some staggering act of an almost heroic character, to which, however, neither the object nor [p. 494] the subject can find a right relation. To the outer world, or to the blind eyes of the extravert, this sympathy looks like coldness, for it does nothing visibly, and an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
 

Lady Lazarus

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This is not the sort of ISFJ I am.
 

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I'm going to take a moment to be slightly :offtopic: and disagree with you there. While evidence and non-evidence may be gathered by P functions, they are judged by J functions. As you said, there are S types that believe in God, but the proof you consider to be nonexistent might be judged by someone else to exist. Just because one didn't physically see God create things doesn't mean they weren't created by him. Just because I've never seen Africa for myself doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've never seen the wind; I've seen the effects of the wind but I've never seen the wind. Some people will take the effects as proof of the original phenomenon. And some won't or will seek to attribute it to something else.
In the end, though, it is a leap of faith, whether you're N or S, or T or F.

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eh I don't believe in any religion and I know plenty of Ns who do. I don't think it's type related.
 

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What an interesting thread. I feel like I am quite ISFJ right now in my life but that may be due to tertiary Si. In my childhood and youth though my behaviour wasn't ISFJ at all so that is one of the reasons I haven't seriously considered it being my type since your type doesn't change throughout your life. I also do not relate to the SJ temperament at all. I have really enjoyed reading this thread. I love ISFJs and if there is any way I could be one I would be really happy about it :)
 

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I dare you to tell me why I'm not INFP
 
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