Scott N Denver
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All,
I recently got some phone calls about something, and I'd like other people's inputs here, particularly fellow NF input, hence why its in this area and not "careers"
Situation: I got a phone call from an engineer friend asking me if I wanted to teach an intro physics course this Fall at the Denver art institute. Then, I got a call from a director or coordinator or someone asking me if I wanted to teach this course, or if not if I knew someone else who might. Apparently it has a virtual lab, is intro physics, and is for "art" and "design" or whatever other similar majors...
Some background and analysis: For those who don't know I spent 5 years as a physics TA while in grad school. Most of my students said I teach very well, many said I explain/teach MUCH better than the profs, and several said they wish I was teaching there class instead of the profs. I've also tutored, both math and physics, before. In short, I am capable of teaching. But, but, but... For those who missed it, I am an INFP. Physics is very INTJ [with some INTP and ENTJ occasional overlays]. I TAed for 5 years. I liked some of it. I hated tons of it. I could say that grad school was this horrible and very punishing experience [it was], I could tell you that I had nightmares about it probably every night while in it [I did], I could tell you that to this day I still have occasional nightmares about it [I do] and that some of these nightmares wake me up in a cold sweat scaring the shit out of me [they do], I could tell you that to this day I still carry psychological and psychic scars from those experiences [I do, but I've been working on it, a lot], I could say that no "colorful" words that leave my mouth nor nothing I could say could adequately describe how bad much of it was [my INFP mouth is generally pretty "clean" in its language].
But this is intro physics, I could handle that, heck I even like it [depending on emphasis and style]. and its at an art institute, for [whatever "art" and "design" type majors], can anyone say NF students??? I've always taught to either "physics majors and engineers" or to "science, non-physics majors". Hmm, NF students... :rolli: But, I had peers who taught to business and arts majors, they had nothing/almost nothing positive to say about it...
It would let me meet more people, and fellow NF's, but you can't date your students... Its downtown, I live far from downtown and hate traffic/parking/congestion/etc...
Why am I even thinking about this??? Because, being the damned INFP super-idealist that I am, and having seen lots of crappy teachers and heard comments form students about crappy teachers I've always thought I could teach, not better, but closer to the way students think and not so physics-PhD-professorish. I've moved on with my life since grad school. I've put a LOT of effort into leaving that trauma behind. I am NOT a city person, this isn't practical... I don't think I will do this. Wait, I could spend this time meeting hot fit NF women MY age instead, not 18-21 [presumably] undergrads...I think I am just smitten with the idea that I would have NF and NFP students that I'd like and feel comfortable with [as opposed to _ssloads of NTJ _sshole classmates] and I'm idealistically projecting this "great teaching" environment where I'd have motivated interested NFP students smitten with the subject content. Yeah, how idealistic is THAT??? :rolli: :rolli:
Can someone please talk some sense into me, instead of this damned INFP "if I just try harder everything will work out right, or at least better" change the world unrealistic idealism that surfaces in me from time to time :rolli: :rolli: :rolli:
I think my overall decision is already made, I won't do it, but if people can have good inputs ["Scott, you can't date your students" "Scott, meet women your own age" "Scott, teach yoga or martial arts not physics" "Scott, you like math, if your gonna teach college teach that instead" "Scott, the hippie NFP women are in Boulder, go there instead" "Dude, college is over, you've let it go and move don with your life, don't regress now" "dude, students don't wanna learn about physics, save yourself the hassle and misery, you've already been there and done some of that. Did you see your profs, WTF would you wanna be like them or do the work they do?" "Scott, your missing out on positive point ___"]. In particular if people here with teaching experience can "knock some sense" into my semi-unbridled idealism, that would help!
Thanks!
-Scott
I recently got some phone calls about something, and I'd like other people's inputs here, particularly fellow NF input, hence why its in this area and not "careers"
Situation: I got a phone call from an engineer friend asking me if I wanted to teach an intro physics course this Fall at the Denver art institute. Then, I got a call from a director or coordinator or someone asking me if I wanted to teach this course, or if not if I knew someone else who might. Apparently it has a virtual lab, is intro physics, and is for "art" and "design" or whatever other similar majors...
Some background and analysis: For those who don't know I spent 5 years as a physics TA while in grad school. Most of my students said I teach very well, many said I explain/teach MUCH better than the profs, and several said they wish I was teaching there class instead of the profs. I've also tutored, both math and physics, before. In short, I am capable of teaching. But, but, but... For those who missed it, I am an INFP. Physics is very INTJ [with some INTP and ENTJ occasional overlays]. I TAed for 5 years. I liked some of it. I hated tons of it. I could say that grad school was this horrible and very punishing experience [it was], I could tell you that I had nightmares about it probably every night while in it [I did], I could tell you that to this day I still have occasional nightmares about it [I do] and that some of these nightmares wake me up in a cold sweat scaring the shit out of me [they do], I could tell you that to this day I still carry psychological and psychic scars from those experiences [I do, but I've been working on it, a lot], I could say that no "colorful" words that leave my mouth nor nothing I could say could adequately describe how bad much of it was [my INFP mouth is generally pretty "clean" in its language].
But this is intro physics, I could handle that, heck I even like it [depending on emphasis and style]. and its at an art institute, for [whatever "art" and "design" type majors], can anyone say NF students??? I've always taught to either "physics majors and engineers" or to "science, non-physics majors". Hmm, NF students... :rolli: But, I had peers who taught to business and arts majors, they had nothing/almost nothing positive to say about it...
It would let me meet more people, and fellow NF's, but you can't date your students... Its downtown, I live far from downtown and hate traffic/parking/congestion/etc...
Why am I even thinking about this??? Because, being the damned INFP super-idealist that I am, and having seen lots of crappy teachers and heard comments form students about crappy teachers I've always thought I could teach, not better, but closer to the way students think and not so physics-PhD-professorish. I've moved on with my life since grad school. I've put a LOT of effort into leaving that trauma behind. I am NOT a city person, this isn't practical... I don't think I will do this. Wait, I could spend this time meeting hot fit NF women MY age instead, not 18-21 [presumably] undergrads...I think I am just smitten with the idea that I would have NF and NFP students that I'd like and feel comfortable with [as opposed to _ssloads of NTJ _sshole classmates] and I'm idealistically projecting this "great teaching" environment where I'd have motivated interested NFP students smitten with the subject content. Yeah, how idealistic is THAT??? :rolli: :rolli:
Can someone please talk some sense into me, instead of this damned INFP "if I just try harder everything will work out right, or at least better" change the world unrealistic idealism that surfaces in me from time to time :rolli: :rolli: :rolli:
I think my overall decision is already made, I won't do it, but if people can have good inputs ["Scott, you can't date your students" "Scott, meet women your own age" "Scott, teach yoga or martial arts not physics" "Scott, you like math, if your gonna teach college teach that instead" "Scott, the hippie NFP women are in Boulder, go there instead" "Dude, college is over, you've let it go and move don with your life, don't regress now" "dude, students don't wanna learn about physics, save yourself the hassle and misery, you've already been there and done some of that. Did you see your profs, WTF would you wanna be like them or do the work they do?" "Scott, your missing out on positive point ___"]. In particular if people here with teaching experience can "knock some sense" into my semi-unbridled idealism, that would help!
Thanks!
-Scott