Why are millennials so miserable?

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

They say knowledge is sorrow, and overall access to knowledge has increased. Even those people who prefer to be less aware still encounter things their little live-laugh-love lives. They're read memes on Facebook or encounter someone who just can't stop watching the news. Out of all the people paying attention, half of them are going to be pissed off all the time because of political stuff.

Do you suppose Cyndi Lauper would've written "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" if she were a millenial instead of a Gen-Xer? I don't; I think she would've written "Girls Just Wanna Slash Their Wrists" instead.

I think music overall has become less vapid. There's still a good big market for vacuous stuff, but I think music is on the whole becoming more thoughtful. This one is about Donald Trump and his demagoguery.

 

[anticlimatic]

I think music overall has become less vapid. There's still a good big market for vacuous stuff, but I think music is on the whole becoming more thoughtful. This one is about Donald Trump and his demagoguery.

I dig the song, but political songs feel more shallow and vapid to me than many of the greater endeavors of the past. Maybe not in the context of pop rock, but I'm not sure the decemberists are pop rock. I think Alessia Cara and Childish Gambino might make your point better against the Cindi Lauper type of music, but I'd argue that it isn't inherently more thoughtful than other music. Most of it just seems to reflect on existing and overly talked about social conventions- white privilege; fat shaming- which might resonate with a large number of people, but as far as pioneering thought in pop music I don't think it's any more or less than what's already come.

I personally look to music as a gateway to the divine, and appreciate artists who seem- to me- as though they are desperately scratching away at some idea too large for words and too deep for human comprehension. Political songs look to me like a glass of water next to that ocean.

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

I dig the song, but political songs feel more shallow and vapid to me than many of the greater endeavors of the past. Maybe not in the context of pop rock, but I'm not sure the decemberists are pop rock. I think Alessia Cara and Childish Gambino might make your point better against the Cindi Lauper type of music, but I'd argue that it isn't inherently more thoughtful than other music. Most of it just seems to reflect on existing and overly talked about social conventions- white privilege; fat shaming- which might resonate with a large number of people, but as far as pioneering thought in pop music I don't think it's any more or less than what's already come.

I personally look to music as a gateway to the divine, and appreciate artists who seem- to me- as though they are desperately scratching away at some idea too large for words and too deep for human comprehension. Political songs look to me like a glass of water next to that ocean.

Okay. Thoughtful wasn't the right word. I meant that the song shows more political awareness, and that if millennials are more miserable, it may be related to increased knowledge as evidenced by music. The imagery in music videos is also darker and may be reflective of a more unhappy generation.

I still haven't gotten around to listening to that Childish Bambino thing that I've been hearing about.

 

[anticlimatic]

Okay. Thoughtful wasn't the right word. I meant that the song shows more political awareness, and that if millennials are more miserable, it may be related to increased knowledge as evidenced by music. The imagery in music videos is also darker and may be reflective of a more unhappy generation. I still haven't gotten around to listening to that Childish Bambino thing that I've been hearing about.

You're not missing much.

Begs the question- are people depressed because they are into political music, or are they into political music because they're depressed?

 

[Jaguar]

God damn she's a depressed millennial.

A stray bullet and a momma cries
Her baby won’t be coming home tonight
Sirens screaming down the avenue
Just another story on the evening news, oh, whoa

Politics and prejudice
How the hell it’d ever come to this?
When everybody’s gotta pick a side
It don’t matter if you’re wrong or right, no
And so it goes, but I hold onto hope and I won’t let go ’cause


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins


Sometimes it takes a lot of faith
To keep believing there will come a day
When the tears and the sadness, the pain and the hate
The struggle, this madness, will all fade away, yeah


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins


Love is power, love is a smile
Love reaches out, love is the remedy
Love is the answer, love’s an open door
Love is the only thing worth fighting for, yeah


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins
Oh, yeah, love wins


Love will, love can, love still, love wins
Love will, love can, love still, love wins

 

[Lark]

God damn she's a depressed millennial.

A stray bullet and a momma cries
Her baby won’t be coming home tonight
Sirens screaming down the avenue
Just another story on the evening news, oh, whoa

Politics and prejudice
How the hell it’d ever come to this?
When everybody’s gotta pick a side
It don’t matter if you’re wrong or right, no
And so it goes, but I hold onto hope and I won’t let go ’cause


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins


Sometimes it takes a lot of faith
To keep believing there will come a day
When the tears and the sadness, the pain and the hate
The struggle, this madness, will all fade away, yeah


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins


Love is power, love is a smile
Love reaches out, love is the remedy
Love is the answer, love’s an open door
Love is the only thing worth fighting for, yeah


I, I believe you and me are sisters and brothers
And I, I believe we’re made to be here for each other
And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand
Put a world that seems broken together again
Yeah I, I believe in the end love wins
Oh, yeah, love wins


Love will, love can, love still, love wins
Love will, love can, love still, love wins

Its not as good as Keep On Rocking (In The Free World) by Neil Young.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I will add "Christmas turning into a mall spending hysteria" to my already posted list.

 

[Lady Lazarus]

I somehow manage to be so miserable without being a millennial. I suppose I could call it being precocious.

 

[ducks]

I never know what people are talking about when they say Millennials or baby boomers or any of those terms. People in those groups are all different, unless we're talking about what seems to stand out the most, but I'm not sure people agree what that even is? Millenials from different areas are going to be thought differently. What exactly is a Millenial to begin with? Sometimes I think they just take all the negative and positive traits that stand out the most and say that's a Millenial, but then again only certain traits will apply to certain Millenials and even then a Millenial doesn't have to have any of those traits.

I don't know. This just seems like a contemporary political buzzword to talk about issues and place blame or something. Maybe I'm not in to that.

 

[ducks]

From OP's video

"Millenials broadly, but especially the left wing ones, are coddled, undisciplined, uneducated, uncultured, ungrateful, overgrown children."

? The fuck is he talking about. I can't listen to the rest of his argument if he starts it that way. I'm literally the opposite of that and all my friends from high school are as well. One is doing well in the Navy and works in Special Operations, hoping to pass Seal school at some point. The other is a computer engineer and the other works at a successful photography company that he helped start (he's pretty ENFP lol). And I work for a defense contractor and we all seem to be doing pretty well...

 

[ducks]

oh god damn it. this IS just a political thing.

Michael J. Knowles - Wikipedia
Michael Knowles (/noÊŠlz/; born March 18, 1990) is an American actor, author, conservative political commentator, columnist, and podcaster.

"Michael Knowles melts 'snowflakes' by breaking down the problems with the Millennial generation at Michigan State."


You got me. Forget I said anything. Nevermind.

 

[ceecee]

oh god damn it. this IS just a political thing.

Michael J. Knowles - Wikipedia
Michael Knowles (/noÊŠlz/; born March 18, 1990) is an American actor, author, conservative political commentator, columnist, and podcaster.

"Michael Knowles melts 'snowflakes' by breaking down the problems with the Millennial generation at Michigan State."


You got me. Forget I said anything. Nevermind.

Of course it is. Look at the person who started this thread.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Millenials are miserable because it's obvious the nation has gone downhill relative to the 80's and 90's of their childhood.

 

[Forever]

Why do people think that the "nation" is causing people to be miserable?

I can't get upset at the entire land or government who could give less of a shit for me.

Sure of course government can affect people.

But US is not a 3rd world country.

It would be a pretty loaded to say, as people from worst places have lead happier lives.

 

[Lark]

Of course it is. Look at the person who started this thread.

Do you think any value can come out of these sorts of threads produced by these sorts of forumers?

When I stop posting periodically its usually because I dont see any value in anything at all that's being posted, usually there's a lot of this kind of thing.

I'm sure they're just getting e-mails from their cardboard fort HQ someplace with instructions to shit post it everywhere. In the eighties it was why the Socialist Workers Party or other factions would cover derelicts or shuttered buildings with their posters. Why in the nineties in the UK the National Front and later British National Party did the same thing and tried to cover public notice boards with them to give the impression of official sanction.

Its all gone online as the "social space" there has expanded.

Although what you going to do? Like its probably possible to abandon the "social space" online altogether, the same as public spaces offline become deserted. What the craic is producing threads like these there's still people posting in them, like you, that I'd like to interact with whatever nonsense lead to the thread in the first place.

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Millenials are miserable because it's obvious the nation has gone downhill relative to the 80's and 90's of their childhood.

If that's true then that's pretty bad since the eighties and nineties were no utopia by any stretch.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Do you think any value can come out of these sorts of threads produced by these sorts of forumers?

When I stop posting periodically its usually because I dont see any value in anything at all that's being posted, usually there's a lot of this kind of thing.

I'm sure they're just getting e-mails from their cardboard fort HQ someplace with instructions to shit post it everywhere. In the eighties it was why the Socialist Workers Party or other factions would cover derelicts or shuttered buildings with their posters. Why in the nineties in the UK the National Front and later British National Party did the same thing and tried to cover public notice boards with them to give the impression of official sanction.

Its all gone online as the "social space" there has expanded.

Although what you going to do? Like its probably possible to abandon the "social space" online altogether, the same as public spaces offline become deserted. What the craic is producing threads like these there's still people posting in them, like you, that I'd like to interact with whatever nonsense lead to the thread in the first place.

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If that's true then that's pretty bad since the eighties and nineties were no utopia by any stretch.

The policies enacted then might indeed have caused or excaerbated many of our current problems, but it seems as though it might have taken a while for the full impact to be felt.

 

[anticlimatic]

The politices enacted then might indeed have caused or excaerbated many of our current problems, but it seems as though it might have taken a while for the full impact to be felt.

I think the 80s and 90s were a better time psychologically if not financially (there's plenty of research demonstrating that the two have little in common).

The more I think about it the more obvious the mental health decline of millennials seems all too conveniently bound to the ascendence of the Internet. I think it might be the largest indirect contributor to the epidemic.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I think the 80s and 90s were a better time psychologically if not financially (there's plenty of research demonstrating that the two have little in common).

The more I think about it the more obvious the mental health decline of millennials seems all too conveniently bound to the ascendence of the Internet. I think it might be the largest indirect contributor to the epidemic.

That overlapped with 9/11 and the war on terror, though. That's got to be a big factor.

 

[anticlimatic]

there's still people posting in them, like you, that I'd like to interact with whatever nonsense lead to the thread in the first place.

Friendship 101 <3

 

[Magnus]

It's really just Boomers who don't get it. And they'll be dead soon (though not soon enough). Until then, not getting it remains their specialty.