This question is so messed up af, and the more messed up af part is how pervasively accepted it's become.
Which of the 3 questions I posed (below) are you referring to?
What was your childhood dream job? Does your current profession resemble them in any way? Do you care?
Why are any of those questions 'messed up af'?
Seth's Blog: "So busy doing my job, I can't get any work done"Your job vs. your project
Jobs are finite, specified and something we 'get'. Doing a job makes us defensive, it limits our thinking. The goal is to do just enough, not get in trouble, meet spec. When in doubt, seek deniability.
Projects are open-ended, chosen and ours. Working on a project opens the door to possibility. Projects are about better, about new frontiers, about making change happen. When in doubt, dare.
Jobs demand meetings and the key word is 'later'. Projects encourage 'now.'
You can get paid for a job (or a project). Or not. The pay isn't the point, the approach is.
Some people don't have a project, only a job. That's a choice, and it's a shame. Some people work to turn their project into a job, getting them the worst of both. If all you've ever had is jobs (a habit that's encouraged starting in first grade), it's difficult to see just how easy it is to transform your work into a project.
Welcome to projectworld.
"So busy doing my job, I can't get any work done"
Your job is an historical artifact. It's a list of tasks, procedures, alliances, responsibilities, to-dos, meetings (mostly meetings) that were layered in, one at a time, day after day, for years.
And your job is a great place to hide.
Because, after all, if you're doing your job, how can you fail? Get in trouble? Make a giant error?
The work, on the other hand, is the thing you do that creates value. This value you create, the thing you do like no one else can do, is the real reason we need you to be here, with us.
When you discover that the job is in the way of the work, consider changing your job enough that you can go back to creating value.
Anything less is hiding.
because reasons. I don't have anything original to say, so
What he is saying has value. I looked at his blog and it's an interesting read.
When people ask me "What do you do?" I often reply with answers other than what I do for work. I relate to the idea of what he says in the above quotes.
And still...Mr. Godin's writings in this regard correlate with his books (that he asks money for) and his speaking gigs (that are paid) and his courses (for a fee). Where does his job end and his project begin? Or vice versa?
Not the same as the thread title.I understand the disconnect that people have that you are highlighting Pho. But, to say that remembering what you wanted to do as a child (the question is often "What do you want to BE when you grow up" which does not limit itself to occupation) and pondering what connection your adult life has to it...is 'messed up as F*ck' might be a bit overstated, no?
Thread: What Was Your Childhood Dream Job?
If one adds value and people are willing to pay for that value, why is there a conflict in that? Certainly one has the liberty to chose to do so for free, which would be called charity. And maybe if they did, their reputation would still feed them from karma driven generosity. But I digress. It's an ad hominem, which departs from the main point.
Not the same as the thread title.
The messed up part pertains exactly to the lack of context and awareness regarding occupation/vocation vs job, a child does not possess, and how castrating and chastising it is to be indoctrinated by the adults whom also lack such awareness, with quite foreseeable life long consequences.
I do not feel there is conflict. I was highlighting how it squared with his own thoughts.
How so?
as this:If all you've ever had is jobs (a habit that's encouraged starting in first grade), it's difficult to see just how easy it is to transform your work into a project.
It's difficult to see just how easy it is to transform your work into a project.
I wanted to be Indiana Jones, or Doc Brown.
Does your current work resemble those?![]()
Growing up, I always imagined myself in a position of power, fame, or importance typically associated with some risk/danger. Action movie star, corporate CEO, special forces commando, international spy, etc.
...and now I teach high school.
Teenagers too can be vicious.