What did Nietzsche say? (What is your favourite western philosophy and why?)

[Nicodemus]

Or is Lark now in the business of completely making stuff up to discredit ideas he does not appreciate?

I think it was a joke that failed to reach the audience.

 

[entropie]

Der Mensch ist ein Seil, geknüpft zwischen Tier und Übermensch - ein Seil über einem Abgrunde. Ein gefährliches Hinüber, ein gefährliches Auf-dem-Wege,
ein gefährliches Zurückblicken, ein gefährliches Schaudern und Stehenbleiben. Was groß ist am Menschen, das ist, daß er eine Brücke und kein Zweck ist: was geliebt werden kann am Menschen, das ist, daß er ein Übergang und ein Untergang ist. Ich liebe die, welche nicht zu leben wissen, es sei denn als Untergehende, denn es sind die Hinübergehenden.

The human is a rope, knotted between animal and Ãœbermensch - a rope over a chasm. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-road, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shiver and standing-still. What is big in a human that he is a bridge and not a purpose: what can be loved in a human is that he is a transition and a downfall. I love these, who dont know how to live, unless as downfallers, because they are them who go over.

Victor, friend is that you ?

 

[Zarathustra]

I think it was a joke that failed to reach the audience.

Oh, so he managed that twice in seven posts?

 

[Nicodemus]

Oh, so he managed that twice in seven posts?

He is very talented, you know.

Also, here is one of my new favorites:
[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyx0rNyxFrk"]Richard Rorty[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Sniffles]

How surprising to hear such a sentiment from someone described like this:

Considering Schuon is talking about a man who declared God is dead, spent the last few years of his life in a mental asylum, and danced around his apartment naked in a "Dionysian frenzy", among other things - you have to admit it sounds like a fair assestment.

 

[Zarathustra]

Considering Schuon is talking about a man who declared God is dead, spent the last few years of his life in a mental asylum, and danced around his apartment naked in a "Dionysian frenzy", among other things - you have to admit it sounds like a fair assestment.

Sounds like you need to do a little more naked dancing...

 

[Nicodemus]

Considering Schuon is talking about a man who declared God is dead, spent the last few years of his life in a mental asylum, and danced around his apartment naked in a "Dionysian frenzy", among other things - you have to admit it sounds like a fair assestment.

Only if that was also why he called him a volcanic genius. You know pretty well that he was not like that before the end of 1889.

 

[entropie]

volcanic genius sounds naughty Could be the title to a great porn movie .

 

[Sniffles]

Sounds like you need to do a little more naked dancing...

Oh I'm too much of an Untermensch to do that.

Only if that was also why he called him a volcanic genius. You know pretty well that he was not like that before the end of 1889.

He called him a volcanic genius because of his deep and explosive insights into the problems confronting modern man. Schuon actually lamented that Nietzsche turned against the sacred and the divine, which in the end hindered the true greatness he could've achieved.

 

[Zarathustra]

Oh I'm too much of an Untermensch to do that.

He called him a volcanic genius because of his deep and explosive insights into the problems confronting modern man. Schuon actually lamented that Nietzsche turned against the sacred and the divine, which in the end hindered the true greatness he could've achieved.

He was just laying the groundwork...

 

[The Outsider]

Picking a favorite philosophy is something that seems really bizarre to me.

 

[Lark]

Frithjof Schuon's summary of Nietzsche is perhaps my favorite quote about him: "A volcanic genius if there ever was one...but in a manner that is both deviated and demented."

Kidding aside there is a quote from Nietzsche I like which is something about needing to be able to tolerate a certain amount of internal chaos in order to produce or give birth to a dancing star or something like that, I saw it on a literati t-shirt, which also in some ways sums up something about Nietzsche, he's not riske, he's a darling of the chattering classes or pseudo-intellectuals.

In some senses its interesting to read the ideas of someone who is bordering on or actually mad but then Dosteyovski's The Overcoat, Notes from The Underground or Diary of a Madman are considered to have literary merit but they arent considered to be philosophy.

 

[Lark]

Picking a favorite philosophy is something that seems really bizarre to me.

Interesting, why so?

 

[Zarathustra]

Kidding aside there is a quote from Nietzsche I like which is something about needing to be able to tolerate a certain amount of internal chaos in order to produce or give birth to a dancing star or something like that, I saw it on a literati t-shirt, which also in some ways sums up something about Nietzsche, he's not riske, he's a darling of the chattering classes or pseudo-intellectuals.

In some senses its interesting to read the ideas of someone who is bordering on or actually mad but then Dosteyovski's The Overcoat, Notes from The Underground or Diary of a Madman are considered to have literary merit but they arent considered to be philosophy.

I find it hard to take a sentence too seriously when its creator spells "risque" as "riske".

I also find it funny when one someone calls another person a pseudo-intellectual.

I'm pretty sure the best way to spot pseudo-intellectualism is to see someone bring up the term in a conversation.

 

[Nicodemus]

I find it hard to take a sentence too seriously when its creator spells "risque" as "riske".

I also find it funny when one somebody calls another a pseudo-intellectual.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the best way to spot pseudo-intellectualism is to see someone use the term in a conversation.

And then, to crown it all, 'The Overcoat' and 'Diary of a Madman' were written by Gogol.

 

[Zarathustra]

And then, to crown it all, 'The Overcoat' and 'Diary of a Madman' were written by Gogol.

 

[The Outsider]

Interesting, why so?

To me it's more of a state of mind, not a buffet.

 

[Stanton Moore]

"Without music, life would be a mistake." ~FN

 

[Zarathustra]

To me it's more of a state of mind, not a buffet.

I understood what you meant immediately.

To an Fi dom, they've already got their philosophy. It comes from within.

To an INTJ, the philosophy comes from "not" having a philosophy. It comes from looking at and understanding the buffet.

 

[Pride]

"If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence. For nothing is self-sufficient, neither in us ourselves nor in things; and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed."

- Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche was not a nihilist.