Type Stereo-Types

[vaulttec]

Jp means just playing. Gg means good game. It's kind of old. I don't have biases towards NT's in general

Can't you read? You didn't answer my question.
I asked what's wrong with being mysoginistic or racist, based on the premisse NFs were all about respecting other opinions.
I know plenty of internet slangs, thank you.

 

[Forever]

Can't you read? You didn't answer my question.
I asked what's wrong with being mysoginistic or racist, based on the premisse NFs were all about respecting other opinions.
I know plenty of internet slangs, thank you.

Idk where this is going to lead to but I'ma answer anyway...

because it's a silly question.

Because being misogynistic or racist is assuming someone is already "bad" or "wrong" for just being who they are. There's also a difference between respecting and accepting one's own opinion.

 

[vaulttec]

Idk where this is going to lead to but I'ma answer anyway...

because it's a silly question.

Because being misogynistic or racist is assuming someone is already "bad" or "wrong" for just being who they are. There's also a difference between respecting and accepting one's own opinion.

The question has been answered. Thank you.
But if you don't mind me arguing this, why is it wrong to assume someone is bad just because of who they are?
You can assume someone is bad just because this person went on a massacre and killed 100 people with an AR-15.
You can assume someone is bad just because 90% of people like that person end up in jail.
And so on.
There's a thing called morals you know.

 

[Null]

A lot of ISFJ stereotypes don't fit me; I'm definitely not a pushover, I enjoy writing commentary, I'm unorganized, usually late, I don't care about duty outside of close relationships and don't have conservative beliefs. Even more, but those are the main parts.

You can assume someone is bad just because this person went on a massacre and killed 100 people with an AR-15.
You can assume someone is bad just because 90% of people like that person end up in jail.

First one is behaviour, not race / gender / etc. Behaviour is what makes your morals. Second one is hilariously random. (sry for intruding your convo)

 

[Yama]

Fueled by ramen rage:

• likes philosophical discussions
• not an idiot
• doesnt blindly follow authority
• doesnt adhere to society's traditions
• doesnt force people to live their lives by my standards
• will let the clean laundry sit in the dryer for 3 days
• doesnt cook or bake
• not a housewife
• not a soccer mom
• not even a female jesus christ i swear to god there are some people out there who are unaware that isfjs can be male
• seriously do you even know how many descriptions ive read that refer to the isfj exclusively as she/her

 

[Coriolis]

seriously do you even know how many descriptions ive read that refer to the isfj exclusively as she/her

Probably about as many as refer to INTJ exclusively as he/him.

 

[Yama]

Probably about as many as refer to INTJ exclusively as he/him.

Exactly! Many people tend to think of FJ as female and NT as male. It makes so much more sense to just be gender neutral in type description profiles, and yet surprisingly I've seen barely any that actually do that.

 

[Dreamer]

I was going to first post that I don't vomit rainbows and unicorns, but now that I think about it, I have found glitter in my saliva on more than one occasion...

 

[geedoenfj]

Fueled by ramen rage:

• likes philosophical discussions
• not an idiot
• doesnt blindly follow authority
• doesnt adhere to society's traditions
• doesnt force people to live their lives by my standards
• will let the clean laundry sit in the dryer for 3 days
• doesnt cook or bake
• not a housewife
• not a soccer mom
• not even a female jesus christ i swear to god there are some people out there who are unaware that isfjs can be male
• seriously do you even know how many descriptions ive read that refer to the isfj exclusively as she/her

Man you got me laughing so hard [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
I only thought you were a female because of your avatar but I knew from your description that you're a male..
I think our mind is set to refer to F types as being female and T types to be males, which is not necessarily true
My INTJ mom has very feminine manners and she's a very naturally beautiful woman, and I know some feelers who are tomboyish and less feminine..

 

[Yama]

Bonus for fun:

I'm reading the ISFJ descriptions on the 16 personalities website and I'm going to write down the point that I do and don't agree with.

Agree:
-tendency to be perfectionists
-responsible
-uncomfortable in the spotlight
-reliable and patient
-practical
-shy
-take things personally
-private (obviously more so irl than on a forum where we're encouraged to talk about ourselves and our type)
-reluctant to change

Disagree:
-naturally altruistic and generous (I am pretty selfish and when I do nice things for people it is NOT "natural")
-naturally social (hell no. this crap about ISFJs being the most "extroverted introverts" is sooo NOT me)
-remember details about people (only the ones I personally care about. Otherwise, I'll forget your name 5 seconds after you tell it to me)
-family-oriented (ugh)
-observant/aware of others emotions (I'm more focused on myself and my own emotions/thoughts)
-enthusiastic (more like reluctant)

 

[purplesocks]

Fueled by ramen rage:

• likes philosophical discussions
• not an idiot
• doesnt blindly follow authority
• doesnt adhere to society's traditions
• doesnt force people to live their lives by my standards
• will let the clean laundry sit in the dryer for 3 days
• doesnt cook or bake
• not a housewife
• not a soccer mom
• not even a female jesus christ i swear to god there are some people out there who are unaware that isfjs can be male
• seriously do you even know how many descriptions ive read that refer to the isfj exclusively as she/her

One of the best people in my life is an ISFJ male. I adore him. I also suspect one of my professors this semester to be an ISFJ, and he is an older man. He seems like a very calm and sweet guy. Stereotypes are for the weak minded.

 

[ceecee]

I'm a scientist. Science is not stereotypically connected with Fe-dominance at all. There's actually a surprising number of Fe-dom scientists in my department (including my adviser who is ENFJ as well).

My husband has a degree in Physics and his job is very technical/engineering. If I had to guess about his type and didn't know him, I would say he's a TJ. Definitely not an SJ and not NF, which he is. One of my ENFP's is an interior designer, she's the only person I know, outside of myself, with a stereotypical type job.

 

[hjgbujhghg]

Feelers are not the gentle loving caretakers.

Feelers simply feel and have a good connection to their emotional worlds which makes them aware of both positive and negative feelings and positive and negative attitudes. Feelers can be selfish ignorants or abusers just like anyone else can.

 

[Lady Lazarus]

I don't fit any of them.

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

 

[Smilephantomhive]

Stereotypes I fit
Good memory
Eldest child who takes care of practical things in family
Strict
Dry humor
Worrywort
If you hurt my sisters I will murder you in the most painful way imaginable

Stereotypes I don't fit
I lose things all the time
Procrastination
Creative
Doesn't follow tradition blindly
Loves to talk about theories
Not a hard worker

 

[Ene]

[MENTION=25892]Smilephantomhive[/MENTION] The ISTJs that I know and have known often seem to enjoy talking about theories.

 

[Smilephantomhive]

[MENTION=25892]Smilephantomhive[/MENTION] The ISTJs that I know and have known often seem to enjoy talking about theories.

A lot of people say this. I dont know why it's a sterotype.

 

[cascadeco]

A lot of people say this. I dont know why it's a sterotype.

Probably just a shorthand way to try to differentiate between intj. It's my opinion the types are more 'extreme' archetypes/categories anyway - and most ppl probably fall somewhere in the middle. My istj mom for example would totally fit the anti-theory stereotype, but then I don't think she's super mentally geared for theory (reasons that mostly have to do with nothing tied to mbti), and she has other concerns. I am in no way saying this is true of all istj's, as like [MENTION=16382]Ene[/MENTION], I have known a few who have been very able to hold their ground in theory, and maybe enjoyed it (I wouldn't know, am not in their heads). I think there's a spectrum....

 

[Ene]

Stereotypes I fit
Good memory
Eldest child who takes care of practical things in family
Strict
Dry humor
Worrywort
If you hurt my sisters I will murder you in the most painful way imaginable

Stereotypes I don't fit
I lose things all the time
Procrastination
Creative
Doesn't follow tradition blindly
Loves to talk about theories
Not a hard worker

I apologize. I totally misread and for some reason I thought you had the "theories" one listed on top. Still, I really do know several ISTJs and they really do have some interesting theories, but then again, my INTJ trainer and an ENTJ that I know are always talking about their theories, too. Shoot...I even have a few of my own.

 

[Tilt]

A lot of people say this. I dont know why it's a sterotype.

Most of the ISTJs I have known like to talk in theory as long as they can see some point to it....and not just hours of brainstorming back and forth. Plus, I would think e5s would tend to like to talking about theories and ideas.