Type Stereo-Types

[Ene]

What stereo-types do you hold about type? And how do you react when someone breaks out of them? Oh, and how about you? Have you ever broken out of the stereo-type? I think it's important to remember that cognitive functions help us understand the way we see the world, but they do not dictate what we become in the world. What are your thoughts?

For example I know...an INFP marathon runner, an ESTP poet, an ESTJ elementary school counselor, an ISTJ nurse, an ENFP martial artist and on and on.....

 

[Duffy]

I think some of these stereotype breaking tendencies are probably a manifestation of the inferior. Like your example of the ESTP poet. I've noticed ESxPs have a bit of a spiritual & mystical streak, commonly associated with Ni-doms. Celebritytypes give Madonna and Megan Fox as ESTP examples, two of whom I've noticed to have been into that sorta thing. Another one that comes to mind is Teal Swan, who I think types as INFJ (and others tend to agree). I suspect that she's a ESxP of some sort. Check it out:

Very Angelina Jolie-esque (another ESTP).

 

[Duffy]

To answer the thread, I know a feeler in my family that has one of the "hard" sciences as a career. As for their type? They identify them self as such and I tend to agree.

 

[á´…eparted]

I'm a scientist. Science is not stereotypically connected with Fe-dominance at all. There's actually a surprising number of Fe-dom scientists in my department (including my adviser who is ENFJ as well).

 

[evilrubberduckie]

The ENTP stereotypes are pretty God awful spot on. We are Gods.

 

[cascadeco]

Well, I have a high iq and was able to excel at standardized tests. isfp's are stereotypically supposed to rank near the bottom (or at bottom?) in this sort of thing. Also I'm pretty excellent at time management, which I gather isn't a common thing for isfp's?

I have an infj friend who has run several marathons and who even finished an ironman (uggh). She's also an electrical engineer/works in the semiconductor industry, pretty much the only nfj based on what she has told me she has experienced.

My intp brother went through a poetry phase for many years when he was a late teen, writing hundreds of poems, I don't think that's super typical.

I am acquainted with another intp, engineer-turned-massage-therapist, who backpacked around the world for a year (not exactly un-intp), but who also biked down into mexico, aiming to get down to south america via motorcycle (not as intp-ish)

 

[RobinSkye]

My intp brother went through a poetry phase for many years when he was a late teen, writing hundreds of poems, I don't think that's super typical.

Sure it is. NPs are extremely artistic/creative. They're the ones you see who sit inside contemplating what other types consider "useless bullshit" all day.
I'd probably consider myself INTP, and I am an artist/musician before all else.

 

[1487610420]

I think some of these stereotype breaking tendencies are probably a manifestation of the inferior. Like your example of the ESTP poet. I've noticed ESxPs have a bit of a spiritual & mystical streak, commonly associated with Ni-doms. Celebritytypes give Madonna and Megan Fox as ESTP examples, two of whom I've noticed to have been into that sorta thing. Another one that comes to mind is Teal Swan, who I think types as INFJ (and others tend to agree). I suspect that she's a ESxP of some sort. Check it out:

Very Angelina Jolie-esque (another ESTP).

So you argue she's expressing an inferior copping mechanism?

 

[Ene]

The ENTP stereotypes are pretty God awful spot on. We are Gods.

Ha...[crosses arms and looks at the evilrubberduckie with amusement] Come on. Make a believer out of me. prove it.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

INTxs aren't all misogynistic racist shitheads.

 

[Yama]

I don't really like a lot of the ISFJ stereotypes.

 

[Ene]

I think some of these stereotype breaking tendencies are probably a manifestation of the inferior. Like your example of the ESTP poet. I've noticed ESxPs have a bit of a spiritual & mystical streak, commonly associated with Ni-doms. Celebritytypes give Madonna and Megan Fox as ESTP examples, two of whom I've noticed to have been into that sorta thing. Another one that comes to mind is Teal Swan, who I think types as INFJ (and others tend to agree). I suspect that she's a ESxP of some sort. Check it out:

Very Angelina Jolie-esque (another ESTP).

Perhaps they are simply the balancing provided by inferior, but they still break the stereo-types and sometimes, in major ways. I love [MENTION=1206]cascadeco[/MENTION]'s posts about breaking the ISFP stereo type.

 

[Galena]

I've seen ISFPs described as putting their friends or partners in the position of having to "adult" for the two of them, even negligent compared to INFPs. Maaaaybe a college-aged ISFP 9 like my sister is more likely to fit the bill, but the idea of being the dependant in a relationship like that, at this stage of my life, personally horrifies me.

 

[Ene]

I've seen ISFPs described as putting their friends or partners in the position of having to "adult" for the two of them, even negligent compared to INFPs. Maaaaybe a college-aged ISFP 9 like my sister is more likely to fit the bill, but the idea of being the dependant in a relationship like that, at this stage of my life, personally horrifies me.

I can't help but wonder if many of the stereo-types are derived due to the more college age people being studied and surveyed as opposed to those who have managed to develop a cleared understanding of self and identity that usually doesn't manifest itself until after the first three decades of life.

 

[Forever]

INTxs aren't all misogynistic racist shitheads.

I never really thought of NT's like that at all, but now that you mention it..

jp. gg.

 

[Galena]

I can't help but wonder if many of the stereo-types are derived due to the more college age people being studied and surveyed as opposed to those who have managed to develop a cleared understanding of self and identity that usually doesn't manifest itself until after the first three decades of life.

Good point - most people are still getting it together when they're that young. Pinning that on a type was a mistake.

 

[Gawain]

I think of TJs as manipulative and coniving. I know a few that are incredibly honorable, and use their ability to detect and expose falsehoods, and teach others rather than use their ability on others. I tend to find myself drawn to them as mentors. But if I know someone is a TJ in advance, I tend to distrust them until I get to know them better.

Js in general confuse me, as I overvalue adaptability over planning. So without the T, I mostly think of Js as ridiculous and silly. But of course, in a society that is structured and J-heavy, they are very helpful friends and allies in navigating the beauracratical world. So I constantly have to remind myself that it's a personal bias toward a way I do not wish to function rather than something I should place value on. Besides, I love my J friends. Even when they act a bit silly about structure.

I tend to break INFP stereotypes a lot, as well as I and NF stereotypes. I'm generally outgoing and optimistic. I like trying new things and prefer doing to daydreaming. My main hobby is Historical European Martial Arts (swordfighting and similar). And I excel in math and science (though my IQ is to blame for that, as I positively hated math and quit after Calculus 1). Oh, and I am easily assertive and have zero problems with confrontation if I feel it is called for. (Though this seems like a weird stereotype, since INFPs are known to go into Crusader-mode when their values are ignored.)

 

[Flybylikeahurricane]

OMG! I'm an ENFP martial artist and I used to lift weights. Does that break the stereotype? ;p so far the basic stereotypes I've seen with ENFPs is that they're soft, weak, nit interested in physical activity, and have no clue of how the real world works. Allow me to debunk
Soft and weak: ENFPs have Te as they're tertiary function, which makes mature ones far from weak
Physical activity: Ne is an expansive function, which means they will undertake any hobby that is new or is useful to a greater cause
No real world grasp: again, Te breaks the stereotype of non-realism. Sure, immature ENFPs are going to be dreamers that just want to lie in a bed of flowers and have no goals, but ENFPs that even use their Te at all are going to have some sort of grounded and driven side to them. I as a Te using ENFP pride myself in being both grounded, and often having my head in the clouds

 

[Bush]

Even though I know it's possible and even likely, I do sometimes get surprised when I see another side of a person that seems in opposition to what I know about them. It hardly matches one-to-one with type, but it could be seen through an MBTI lens.

When someone breaks stereotype (or their "role," etc.) and realizes it, I cheer for them. At least internally. It's almost a "root for the underdog" notion, where.. I guess the underdog is the idea that stereotypes aren't true in all cases? Or something? You get what I mean.

And when they do, I just hope that they end up with an understanding that everyone else can, too. For the love of God, they need to realize that.

If they don't, I facepalm. Like.. Jesus. You didn't learn a damn thing.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

What stereo-types do you hold about type? And how do you react when someone breaks out of them? Oh, and how about you? Have you ever broken out of the stereo-type? I think it's important to remember that cognitive functions help us understand the way we see the world, but they do not dictate what we become in the world. What are your thoughts?

For example I know...an INFP marathon runner, an ESTP poet, an ESTJ elementary school counselor, an ISTJ nurse, an ENFP martial artist and on and on.....

I knew an ESTP poet. He was quite good until he got bored with it.

He was the Ezra Pound to my T.S. Eliot.