Random Politics Thread

[DiscoBiscuit]

Mass shooing in Nashville school, 6 dead. Female shooter.

Trans shooter, Christian school.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Would Democrats Rather Face Donald Trump Or Ron DeSantis in 2024?

 

[Virtual ghost]

EU ministers pass 2035 car engine ban law

It seems this is it.

 

[ceecee]

Honestly ?
I am starting to think that nothing big will happen to Trump in legal sense. The drama and outcry are just too big and they wouldn't dare to do anything concrete. After all with new cold war going on and inflation problems opening another front could be too much. So the conclusion is perhaps that it is better that they try to beat him in election once more.

Nothing was ever going to happen to him.

 

[Stigmata]

For the life of me I can't understand how the focal point of the Nashville school shooting is that the shooter was trans, as opposed to yet another instance of kids being massacred in a school shooting.

Is that low-hanging transphobia fruit just too good to resist for them? Imagine wanting to score culture war points that badly.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Would Democrats Rather Face Donald Trump Or Ron DeSantis in 2024?

Trump would be easier to beat in a general election. DeSantis scares me more. He’s calmer and better at playing the system to his advantage, so I think he’d do more damage if elected President.

I’m considering voting in the gop primary so I can help sway the outcome, since it’s not likely any prominent Democratic candidates will challenge Biden in a primary

My ultimate hope is that DeSantis is nominee and Trump runs as an independent, splitting the GOP electorate.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Trump would be easier to beat in a general election. DeSantis scares me more. He’s calmer and better at playing the system to his advantage, so I think he’d do more damage if elected President.

I’m considering voting in the gop primary so I can help sway the outcome, since it’s not likely any prominent Democratic candidates will challenge Biden in a primary

My ultimate hope is that DeSantis is nominee and Trump runs as an independent, splitting the GOP electorate.

I know, this is exactly why I am starting to think that nothing too big will happen to him. They could have moved in on him long time ago but risking civil war isn't really worth it. Plus at this point he truly has so much baggage that his ability to win general election is in question. In 2016 all of this was new and it barely passed. While in 2023 all of this is indeed quite old. The odds that the center will mass vote for him is slim.

Form the start I am saying that DeSantis is much stronger player for 2024 and beyond if he can get pass the Trump's base.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

For the life of me I can't understand how the focal point of the Nashville school shooting is that the shooter was trans, as opposed to yet another instance of kids being massacred in a school shooting.

Is that low-hanging transphobia fruit just too good to resist for them? Imagine wanting to score culture war points that badly.

In the past 15 years, there have been about 180 school shootings? And I think the current estimate is that 1% of the population is trans? So statistically speaking, cis folk are nearly twice as dangerous in that regard. I'm inclined to make a joke about how we should consider legislation making it twice as difficult for cis folk to get guns, and how it would certainly be more reality-based than anything the House is currently working on, but political climate being what it is probably makes it a bad idea (at least in writing, where tongue in cheek has been failing spectacularly the past few years).

Not going to bring up statistics for "grooming"/safety of kids and clergy vs lgbtq, but really, how reality plays out in spite of the fear-mongering just isn't brought up often or widely (or respectfully) enough.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Honestly ?
I am starting to think that nothing big will happen to Trump in legal sense. The drama and outcry are just too big and they wouldn't dare to do anything concrete. After all with new cold war going on and inflation problems opening another front could be too much. So the conclusion is perhaps that it is better that they try to beat him in election once more.

Something aggravating about this last round of anticipating his arrest is that he seems to have generated the anticipation himself. He orchestrated an imaginary event in which he'd get arrested, but then didn't - presumably because there wasn't enough to arrest him (at least from his supporters' perspectives). Again. There doesn't seem to be any proof there were concrete plans to arrest him this past week in the first place. But posting about it helped cement conviction in his supporters that they've got "nothing" concrete on him, and it's bullshit manipulation like this that adds up and leads people to do things like, say, storm the Capital (and smear their own shit on the walls) in a frenzy of overzealous righteousness. Kind of like when he got in front of the Russia investigation with a "witch hunt" narrative; his people don't care that evidence WAS found, he WASN'T "exonerated" (not by a long shot). His phone calls WEREN'T "perfect, evidence of voter fraud DOESN'T exist, etc. He's a master at figuring out how to manipulate narrative.

It's important to remember this last round of anticipation for things to come to a head came from the psycho himself, is my point.

 

[The Cat]

For the life of me I can't understand how the focal point of the Nashville school shooting is that the shooter was trans, as opposed to yet another instance of kids being massacred in a school shooting.

Is that low-hanging transphobia fruit just too good to resist for them? Imagine wanting to score culture war points that badly.

Yeah talk about burying the lead, especially if they want to play a numbers game of mass shooters being things cishet white christian dudes for a cat swinging random list of traits.

 

[Stigmata]

 

[Totenkindly]

"Incredible rise of non-binary/trans shooters"?
What world do these @#!&@#&!* live in again?

I love how they inflict social and political violence/oppression on an already disadvantaged minority in various states through a concerted strategy, then double down with every opportunity to just smear them further.

 

[Stigmata]

"Incredible rise of non-binary/trans shooters"?
What world do these @#!&@#&!* live in again?

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I love how they inflict social and political violence/oppression on an already disadvantaged minority in various states through a concerted strategy, then double down with every opportunity to just smear them further.

We're in this strange post-modern, big corporate media driven narrative bubble where the truth is little more than a mild inconvenience that only occasionally gets in the way of crafting the next outrage narrative.

Have any data to support this claim about an alleged rising threat of non-binary/trans shooters?

Doesn't really matter anyway because we're just feeding those that are already transphobic more confirmation bias. The whole system is crafted around driving the algorithm and generating clicks, and factually accurate reporting doesn't scratch that sensationalist itch.

 

[The Cat]

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It's pretty scary how eager these bigots seem to be for seemingly any excuse to commit a genocide of trans people. All for the sake of a con game they're praying people dont wake up to.

 

[The Cat]

"Incredible rise of non-binary/trans shooters"?
What world do these @#!&@#&!* live in again?

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I love how they inflict social and political violence/oppression on an already disadvantaged minority in various states through a concerted strategy, then double down with every opportunity to just smear them further.

Right!?

 

[Stigmata]

Right!?

While at this point pointing our the hypocrisy of conservatives is a colossal waste of time and energy, notice how you aren't hearing calls to not have this politicized or calls for the nation to heal when the shooter doesnt fit the profile of their ilk.

 

[The Cat]

While at this point pointing our the hypocrisy of conservatives is a colossal waste of time and energy, notice how you aren't hearing calls to not have this politicized or calls for the nation to heal when the shooter doesnt fit the profile of their ilk.

Yup.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

Something aggravating about this last round of anticipating his arrest is that he seems to have generated the anticipation himself. He orchestrated an imaginary event in which he'd get arrested, but then didn't - presumably because there wasn't enough to arrest him (at least from his supporters' perspectives). Again. There doesn't seem to be any proof there were concrete plans to arrest him this past week in the first place. But posting about it helped cement conviction in his supporters that they've got "nothing" concrete on him, and it's bullshit manipulation like this that adds up and leads people to do things like, say, storm the Capital (and smear their own shit on the walls) in a frenzy of overzealous righteousness. Kind of like when he got in front of the Russia investigation with a "witch hunt" narrative; his people don't care that evidence WAS found, he WASN'T "exonerated" (not by a long shot). His phone calls WEREN'T "perfect, evidence of voter fraud DOESN'T exist, etc. He's a master at figuring out how to manipulate narrative.

It's important to remember this last round of anticipation for things to come to a head came from the psycho himself, is my point.

From what I understand there were some plans to bring him in these days. The story isn't completely made up. After all it's no secret that they want to process him for years. However there was so much outrage that this wasn't worth it. Trust me if he was average Joe all this would have been solved years ago. He and his base have a deal at this point and he used it well for him. In the world's history he is far from first to avoid legal problems due to loyal followers. This is simply a perk of being a pack leader.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Who is Humza Yousaf, Scotland’s new first minister?

So a Muslim will lead Scotland into independence ? (against PM in London that has Indian background)