Random Politics Thread

[Stigmata]

I had to buy toilet paper at 7/11. Fuuuuuck.

You probably paid double the price to wipe your backside with recycled newspaper quality TP. The stores have been out of toilet paper for weeks and yet they have plenty of loaves of white bread, so naturally I've learned to improvise-- it's really not all that bad once you learn how to fold it to maintain maximum durability to minimize crumbling...

 

[Jaguar]

You probably paid double the price to wipe your backside with recycled newspaper quality TP. The stores have been out of toilet paper for weeks and yet they have plenty of loaves of white bread, so naturally I've learned to improvise-- it's really not all that bad once you learn how to fold it to maintain maximum durability to minimize crumbling...

You're right. I did pay double.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I had to buy toilet paper at 7/11. Fuuuuuck. What is all this, the zombie apocalypse?

the efficency of the market will take care of it.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Imagine a dystopia where you go to buy drugs and toilet paper and you can't find any because of the "perfectly rational and efficient" system that's supposed to allocate resources. Millenials need to face the reality of what socialism means.

As I said I bought a mega pack with 70 rolls when I saw where all of this is going. However I had in mind that due to market dynamics my country is dependent on the mass imports of the toilet paper. I am not sure we have a single factory of toilet paper at this point. Therefore if borders fully close and market crashes ... you get the picture. I have always considered toilet paper to be a weak spot of my country even if there is no real reason for this. We can laugh about it but toilet paper is strategic asset.

The efficency of the market will take care of it.

From what I see on TV my government is introducing price controls, in order to stop overpricing people. Here all cash registers are directly linked through internet to the tax authorities and therefore general controlling of prices is much easier. However the system was actually introduced due to mass tax evasions.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

get a waifu, oldcel.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

As I said I bought a mega pack with 70 rolls when I saw where all of this is going. However I had in mind that due to market dynamics my country is dependent on the mass imports of the toilet paper. I am not sure we have a single factory of toilet paper at this point. Therefore if borders fully close and market crashes ... you get the picture. I have always considered toilet paper to be a weak spot of my country even if there is no real reason for this. We can laugh about it but toilet paper is strategic asset.

Oh, just to provide clarification, it was a joke because there are shortages here, too. I took a picture of the empty bread shelves in my supermarket a few days ago and uploaded it to Facebook and said this: "Look at this socialist hellhole. There isn't even bread on the shelves. Is this what you want, millenials? It's high time you wake up to the unparalleled efficiency of the market. Moderate pragmatism ftw".

 

[Virtual ghost]

Oh, just to provide clarification, it was a joke because there are shortages here, too. I took a picture of the empty bread shelves in my supermarket a few days ago and uploaded it to Facebook and said this: "Look at this socialist hellhole. There isn't even bread on the shelves. Is this what you want, millenials? It's high time you wake up to the unparalleled efficiency of the market. Moderate pragmatism ftw".

I know very well what that was. This is exactly why I added another example, since sometimes market supports out of mind "solutions". Because the principle is profit, not common sense. Mass outsourcing is textbook example, which is clearly visible in the times like the current ones.



Correction: I went to dig a little bit and at this point we do have toilet paper factory. Even if it seems owned by our people abroad, therefore it is not stereotypical local company.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

What's up with Democrats who are like "we need to win with Republicans and Independents", and then go on about gun control? Bloomberg's candidate for Cook County State Attorney general (who, thankfully, lost) was constantly pestering me on Facebook with annoying ads that usually focused on guns.


It's also something that Biden and Clinton have liked hammering Sanders about.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Bernie is from a big hunting state. Socially liberal but with a strong libertarian streak, not unlike neighboring New Hampshire. So his softer stance on gun control is understandable

 

[Vendrah]

the efficency of the market will take care of it.

Im also thinking of doing corona-libertarian jokes as well. Im trying to resist and not do it.
Libertarians are good at making people angry, and some of them are proud of it and like to show how anger their opposite side is. Perhaps making their angry wouldnt be unfair. But I dont know...

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Bernie is from a big hunting state. Socially liberal but with a strong libertarian streak, not unlike neighboring New Hampshire. So his softer stance on gun control is understandable

I've never really cared that much about guns to begin with. Establishment Democrats like to use that as a litmus test. Trying to cut social security or going along with the dumbass foreign policy of Republican presidents is fine, but getting a D+ rating from the NRA instead of an F- is apparently unforgivable.

 

[ceecee]

I've never really cared that much about guns to begin with. Establishment Democrats like to use that as a litmus test. Trying to cut social security or going along with the dumbass foreign policy of Republican presidents is fine, but getting a D+ rating from the NRA instead of an F- is apparently unforgivable.

The socialist rifle association members I've been working with are great people but I have a feeling it has less to do with the guns and more to do with their non-douchy values and not-right wing attitudes. I hope more gun people discover their local chapters.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

The socialist rifle association members I've been working with are great people but I have a feeling it has less to do with the guns and more to do with their non-douchy values and not-right wing attitudes. I hope more gun people discover their local chapters.

I didn't even know those existed.

 

[ceecee]

I didn't even know those existed.

Yep. They're part of the Mutual Aid Disaster Relief coalition with my local DSA and other eco-activists, social justice activists, global justice activists, permaculturalists, community organizers, solidarity not charity socialist type community sufficiency advocates such as myself and others. The mutual aid thing exists all the time, it's just a more desperate time at the moment for so many people.

 

[ceecee]

I'm also considering talking to them about making a non-insane prepper You Tube channel. I have yet to find one that, 5 minutes in, isn't gushing about Liberty Supressors or where to find ammo when viewers are like - I just came in here to see what to add to a 72 hr food and water kit. smh

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

I'm also considering talking to them about making a non-insane prepper You Tube channel. I have yet to find one that, 5 minutes in, isn't gushing about Liberty Supressors or where to find ammo when viewers are like - I just came in here to see what to add to a 72 hr food and water kit. smh

There’s a few niche channels just devoted to weird stuff like testing old expired MRE meals

 

[ceecee]

There’s a few niche channels just devoted to weird stuff like testing old expired MRE meals

Haha I saw that one.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Regarding left wing gun groups, I think they’re great. These NRA pussies who boast how they’d win a left vs right civil war clearly haven’t heard of these groups.

 

[anticlimatic]

Regarding left wing gun groups, I think they're great. These NRA pussies who boast how they'd win a left vs right civil war clearly haven't heard of these groups.

...that awkward moment when being conservative in just about every way is suddenly a necessary lifestyle change per mandate of nature.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

...that awkward moment when being conservative in just about every way is suddenly a necessary lifestyle change per mandate of nature.

I don't look at gun ownership as a sign of conservative or liberal. That might just be because my own stance on the issue makes me a heterodox liberal.

I think it's something a lot of single issue voters opposed to gun control might vote on, so they are thought of as right wingers by default. Kind of like a pro-lifer who might support universal healthcare and public programs, but votes republican because they think the abortion issue trumps all others.

Though to be fair, even my deceased arch conservative grandfather, a lifelong hunter and gun enthusiast, thought that owning assault rifles was overkill and that they shouldn't be available to the general public, at least not without someone having extensive training first. He thought the open carry guys were a bunch of man children playing at looking like tough militia men.