Random Politics Thread

[ceecee]

lol

 

[yeghor]

Uhuru leaders in St. Pete condemn FBI raid related to Russian agent's indictment

Leaders of the Uhuru movement in St. Petersburg are condemning last week's FBI raid on their properties. They were connected to an ongoing federal investigation related to alleged political collusion with Russia.

www.fox13news.com

 

[Virtual ghost]

Any ideas regarding this bombshell ?

 

[Totenkindly]

There are various reasons this step was potentially taken, including Trump having had other classified docs (for probable cause to search for more) and maybe direction from the 1/6 panel after all the testimony.

rather exciting stuff

 

[ceecee]

There are various reasons this step was potentially taken, including Trump having had other classified docs (for probable cause to search for more) and maybe direction from the 1/6 panel after all the testimony.

rather exciting stuff

 

[The Cat]

just saw an ad from "Pharma" trying to scare me that its a bad thing to lower rx costs...what a fucking joke we live in.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

just saw an ad from "Pharma" trying to scare me that its a bad thing to lower rx costs...what a fucking joke we live in.

Excuse me my ignorance but what is rx ?

 

[The Cat]

Excuse me my ignorance but what is rx ?

abbreviation for prescription

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

I think the R's are still clutching that "Washington outsider/not a politician" idea that worked to elect Trump. When people realized government isn't a business and can't be run like one, you need experience and experienced people to effectively govern, etc that entire ruse was pointless. But they keep doing it. Cool. Sounds like a great plan.

Well, since the capital city is something like 90% blue technically they are outsiders there.


However there is something random that I wanted to ask you if you know, since I don't want indirect data from the internet. What in the end happened with the water supply system in Flint Michigan ? For years that was a big story that was hovering around but did that got solved in the end ?

 

[ceecee]

Well, since the capital city is something like 90% blue technically they are outsiders there.


However there is something random that I wanted to ask you if you know, since I don't want indirect data from the internet. What in the end happened with the water supply system in Flint Michigan ? For years that was a big story that was hovering around but did that got solved in the end ?

There is a federal case that's been going on for months. I doubt any of the people actually responsible from the previous administration will ever see jail time or any sort of accountability. Plus the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that the single judge had no power to issue indictments stemming from the Flint water crisis.

As far as the actual infrastructure that needed to be replaced, the governor signed a $600m settlement with most of it going towards the kids that were impacted most. The pipes and infrastructure were replaced awhile back.

I wouldn't drink unfiltered water anywhere in this state. In rural areas there are wells and the ground water is full of PFAS. Urban water, who knows what heavy metals are in it.

 

[yeghor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557115391394054150

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

Any ideas regarding this bombshell ?

 

[The Cat]

Hoisted by his own petard..how poetic.

 

[The Cat]

Marketing. Advertising. Memes. Voting for entertainment contestants. Pop Culture Republic tipping into dystopia. Why does hate sell so well...​

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Any ideas regarding this bombshell ?

I hope you wanted Trump in '24, because you got him and only him now. Without the raid, DeSantis is possible, with it he is not.

If you wanted Trump to be over, and I mean really over, you would have left him alone after 2020. The continued outsize coverage of him is the same free media he was getting in '15.

The craziest things about all this, are that the Biden administration a) couldn't anticipate the political blowback for this raid (despite it being an unprecedented action in the history of US politics) b) deliberately chose now to do this (happening on the anniv of Nixons resignation speaks to deliberation) when they were already enjoying a relative narrative turnaround.

Not to mention that the FBI pretext for this was the mishandling of classified docs (a la Clinton bleaching the server in her closet circa 2016) and not something more serious, which is guaranteed to be more divisive than necessary. If the FBI needed the docs and knew where they were why not send a subpoena? It would accomplish the same thing, get the docs, without aggravating the political environment. But its smells like the aggravation was the point. Punishing Trump, and those that voted for him has become more important than defeating him. Thats the only lens through which the decision to do this makes sense politically. You know the energy that flowed into the left after the fall of Roe? You just gave that to the Republicans with this. The conversation going into Nov could have been about abortion etc.... Now its about the weaponization of the US judicial apparatus against a political opponent never before seen in this American Republic. Thats all the short term calculus.

Long term it gets even dumber. Remember when Harry Reid, the former Senate Majority leader for the Democrats under Obama, frustrated with trying to get judicial appointments past the GOP, decided to get rid of the 60 vote threshold (filibuster essentially) for all judicial appointments besides SCOTUS. Thats how you get a stacked GOP SCOTUS. This raid strikes me as the same thing. You've guaranteed the GOP will immediately being a political investigation of the Biden Admin once they retake some or all of congress. You've also guaranteed these sorts of raids on Democrats.

There is a sliding scale between the imagined perfect civil election, where transfer of power happens smoothly, everything is conducted transparently, and both the winning and losing sides have reason to believe the process was fair, and one political party en masse taking machetes to cut the right hands off their opponents so they can't vote a la Africa. This raid but the latest removal of a safety between those two election scenarios just mentioned. Legitimizing the use of ones gov't against political opponents is one more notch on the ratchet towards mass political violence.

If one thing has surprised me about this it has been how quickly the GOP have unified around Trump b/c of it. Even the Larry Hogan moderates have supported him. I don't know that I ever saw the party this united behind him while he was in office.

So thanks I guess?

 

[Virtual ghost]

There is a federal case that's been going on for months. I doubt any of the people actually responsible from the previous administration will ever see jail time or any sort of accountability. Plus the Michigan Supreme Court ruled that the single judge had no power to issue indictments stemming from the Flint water crisis.

As far as the actual infrastructure that needed to be replaced, the governor signed a $600m settlement with most of it going towards the kids that were impacted most. The pipes and infrastructure were replaced awhile back.

I wouldn't drink unfiltered water anywhere in this state. In rural areas there are wells and the ground water is full of PFAS. Urban water, who knows what heavy metals are in it.

So the problem is kinda fixed.
I mean this story was dragging around for years, so I wondered what happened in the end. Since the story went kinda dark and that was it.
Thanks.

 

[The Cat]