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Red Memories

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They believe the propaganda that the severe liberal SJWs will make us like Canada where parts of the Bible will be suppressed as a form of hate speech. That their religious freedoms will be trampled and they will be extremely persecuted. They also are sick of the people making faith out to be the flying spaghetti monster and these people usually are hardcore leftists as well who suggest religious people are the worst thing to exist and the only way to freedom is to take out religion.

It is misunderstandings and propaganda. But Trump paraded on this fear and made them believe he would somehow protect them, which I know my mother mentioned from her orthodox threads that the spiritual fathers were trying to remind people that no politician would save them from something like that if it was in God's time, and that they shouldn't worship any man as a savior. I think other church leaders encouraged the viewpoint of Trump as being on their side though, rather than discouraging a worship of political figures as some sort of savior. Technically, the way these people treat Trump as a savior is a sinful idolatry. But aye, what do I know, I'm a heretic in my own faith most of the time lol.


They're afraid... of having consequences... to shitty behaviour...? Oh... nnnooooo...

They deserve to have their 'rights' taken away if they are using it for oppression to begin with. If their system is causing them harm, or making them cause harm, they should question it instead of push back against the... oh no... consequences..... of their own actions..........

'Religious freedoms' my butt. Harmful traditions should die. Law should be able to make sure of it and adjust to the needs of man; strict religious scripture cannot. These are outdated laws that do not serve our time (if they even were a thing to begin with. AFAIK nowhere in the bible explicitly mentions being against queerness). Real or not, there is nothing to suppress if it's all on the straight and narrow.
 

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So I took a long test and I guess it turns out that I am much more left-leaning than I thought. My views supposedly align most with Dwayne Johnson and Elon Musk.... Hahahaha.
 

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So I took a long test and I guess it turns out that I am much more left-leaning than I thought. My views supposedly align most with Dwayne Johnson and Elon Musk.... Hahahaha.

You support Bolivian coups, haha?
 

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They're afraid... of having consequences... to shitty behaviour...? Oh... nnnooooo...

They deserve to have their 'rights' taken away if they are using it for oppression to begin with. If their system is causing them harm, or making them cause harm, they should question it instead of push back against the... oh no... consequences..... of their own actions..........

'Religious freedoms' my butt. Harmful traditions should die. Law should be able to make sure of it and adjust to the needs of man; strict religious scripture cannot. These are outdated laws that do not serve our time (if they even were a thing to begin with. AFAIK nowhere in the bible explicitly mentions being against queerness). Real or not, there is nothing to suppress if it's all on the straight and narrow.

Oh I have often had strong debates with conservative christians on why they're wrong on this. Honest debaters had to reach a point to agree to disagree, they wouldn't take my stance but they could no longer really argue against me either... XD

I think it is wrong to suggest the Bible itself has hate speech in it. The Bible is a book, it has stories, and they are all too often removed from context and GIVEN a hateful meaning. At the same time it is not all odd compared to something like To Kill a Mockingbird, which was banned from many libraries for depicting the awfulness of racism. We ban the most ridiculous things at times in my mind.

I do not agree with it, but if you find it to be a sin well it is between you and God. But you should not derive your idea of sin onto others. The only for sure things we have are God's ten commandments. And nowhere in the ten commandments does it say "thou shall not be queer with rainbows."

I could make a off thread in spirituality about a Christian study of the LGBT+ issue. I realize some people will strongly disagree with my studying but. I prefer to spiritually converse with God and I asked Him if it was really wrong and He never suggested it to me. And I've found more thing suggesting otherwise and that these laws were misinterpreted to be about actually being gay. Most of them are not about being gay, and in hindsight, many of the times "homosexuality" is condemned in the Bible there is actually implied other social negatives involved (lying with ones own father, rape, etc.) So it is NOT so black and white. It is as you said, there are not explicit clear sayings of queerness being the exact issue.

But yeah. Also keep in mind the old testament, where these instances occur, the Jews had many strict and odd laws about sexual relations (if you brought any other person into your wife's bed, not just a man, you would be condemned) so. As said, these laws do not really apply to us much anymore.
 

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Its kind of cool that the ranting against socialism, anarchism, communism by paranoid right wing types has got people talking about those things again.

Alright its a lot of crap most of the time or pretty niche stuff but whatever.

Just Trojan horse the right wingers. Say “here’s a good video by a libertarian” but give them a link to a Noam Chomsky video :laugh:
 

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LMAO I was on this Christian forum I used to be on looking for my exact debate into the LGBT topic I did and oh my god I am a real warrior for the LGBT there because some dude fought with me about how some quiz thing made heterosexuals look bad and I told him he should be a less judgmental heterosexual if that was the case and he told me "Maybe you and all the other politically correct should stop forcing it upon everyone to accept the homo lifestyle" lmao look at me at 17 years old man pissing off people.

I remember Bryce though he was such a douche.
 

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Journalists were bringing in ballots in their camera cases? Who believes conspiracy theories like these? Geez.
 

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You have to want to believe.;)

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Fuck Mitch McConnell. Gonna say it in this thread, too, because you can never say it enough.
 

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This is a snippet from an interview about an upcoming book (Culture Warlords: My Journey into the Dark Web of White Supremacy) that grabbed for me:

"I think the position of “objectivity”, at least in US journalism, often takes the form of a kind of moral toddlerism – a position of perennial surprise at the world, as if all facts and common sense must be thrown out the window and recreated anew. It is almost as if mainstream political journalists in the United States suffer a kind of Promethean ailment: each morning, an eagle draped in an American flag swoops down and removes their temporal lobe. Trump is constantly on the verge of a “new tone”, climate change is still a “debate”, and it is perennially shocking when police departments engage in violence or politicians are hypocritical. I decided to write this book as a rebuke of that faux objectivity – particularly because it has led to some truly disastrous, mealy-mouthed coverage of the far right, all those profiles of “dapper Nazis”. The properties of this kind of “fair-minded” journalism are, I find, uniquely unfit for addressing such a malevolent movement."
- Talia Lavin
 

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Raise taxes. Reduce military defense funding. Give Insurance the boot. Make healthcare available for all through taxes. Stop Big Pharma's scam industry nonsense.

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Raise taxes. Reduce military defense funding. Give Insurance the boot. Make healthcare available for all through taxes. Stop Big Pharma's scam industry nonsense.

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Healthcare is basically a tax already in it's current form.
 

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Healthcare is basically a tax already in it's current form.
Not really, the insurance costs more than it would if we were taxed as it stands now, plus healthcare is not available to everyone who needs it, which is particularly problematic for those who struggle with work due to their health issues.
 

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Not really, the insurance costs more than it would if we were taxed as it stands now, plus healthcare is not available to everyone who needs it, which is particularly problematic for those who struggle with work due to their health issues.

It would be more accurate to call it a racket.
 
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