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Random political thought thread.

ceecee

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Americans Are Leaving Both Parties. This Colorado City Shows Why

Something to think about. Since this could be the sign of what is to come.
The main reason for politicians sticking with a party is for the $$. Make that irrelevant and more will leave the parties but until then, it's not going to be a sign until they can fund. Or elections become publicly funded (which isn't going to happen). Interestingly, I would like to see how many are elected in spite of something like AIPAC millions being given to their pro genocide ghouls.
 

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“I saw the documentary ‘Nothing Compares 2 U’ based on Sinead O’Connor’s life. First she was horribly abused by her mother. Secondly Sinead endured abuse by a Catholic school for girls and women.

Third she lived in a very repressive, and conservative society that impeded woman’s rights in Ireland.

Sinead said, “Let only women of child bearing years be the ones to decide about if a woman can have an abortion.” Sinead O’Connor

The film also showed the Catholic Church covering up a known pedophile. The people who put her down acted shamefully like a Roman mob looking for blood.

So she endured being ostracized and vilified by people in sheer ignorance about the backdrop of Sinead’s life time struggle. Sinead is a hero, strong, and authentic to the core of her being. Look I know the abortion issue is a huge divisive issue.

I must confess I don’t know how grotesque the abortion can be. That doesn’t matter to me. It’s basically mostly from the theists who claim an abortion is murder. Those wanting an abortion generally wouldn’t be loving to the child.

Children who grow up in dysfunctional households endure a lifetime of issues. This is the fact. A full 2/3 of Children who grow up in a dysfunctional home life statistically then for the rest of their lives are plagued with adverse problems.

1. Mental Health.
2. Substance Abuse.
3. Criminality.
4. Jobs.
5. Relationships.

So those who are advocating that a woman has to have the baby are the people most likely not willing to shell out money in programs to address these issues. The child is in the womb, and isn’t cognizant nor self aware.

I personally find it more barbaric that we kill sentient, and aware animals who have emotions to feed ourselves. I believe an animal who is alive and being bred to eat endure much more trauma.” LightSun
 

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“I saw the documentary ‘Nothing Compares 2 U’ based on Sinead O’Connor’s life. First she was horribly abused by her mother. Secondly Sinead endured abuse by a Catholic school for girls and women.

Third she lived in a very repressive, and conservative society that impeded woman’s rights in Ireland.

Sinead said, “Let only women of child bearing years be the ones to decide about if a woman can have an abortion.” Sinead O’Connor

The film also showed the Catholic Church covering up a known pedophile. The people who put her down acted shamefully like a Roman mob looking for blood.

So she endured being ostracized and vilified by people in sheer ignorance about the backdrop of Sinead’s life time struggle. Sinead is a hero, strong, and authentic to the core of her being. Look I know the abortion issue is a huge divisive issue.

I must confess I don’t know how grotesque the abortion can be. That doesn’t matter to me. It’s basically mostly from the theists who claim an abortion is murder. Those wanting an abortion generally wouldn’t be loving to the child.

Children who grow up in dysfunctional households endure a lifetime of issues. This is the fact. A full 2/3 of Children who grow up in a dysfunctional home life statistically then for the rest of their lives are plagued with adverse problems.

1. Mental Health.
2. Substance Abuse.
3. Criminality.
4. Jobs.
5. Relationships.

So those who are advocating that a woman has to have the baby are the people most likely not willing to shell out money in programs to address these issues. The child is in the womb, and isn’t cognizant nor self aware.

I personally find it more barbaric that we kill sentient, and aware animals who have emotions to feed ourselves. I believe an animal who is alive and being bred to eat endure much more trauma.” LightSun
 

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I took the poling averages on 538 for states that aren't safe and put all of that into the map for easier visualization. In other words once the Summer ends prepare for very dramatic campaign. Especially since it seems that more is in play than the expected swing states (in other words there is quite a few "lean states" towards the polling). The Dems simply seems to have a fair share of their voters that don't really want to vote for them. Or at least that is how I would explain the colors and the margins on this map.

:don't kill the messenger:



 

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The Dems simply seems to have a fair share of their voters that don't really want to vote for them.
Ironically, if the Dems had even more voters that don't want to vote for them, they might be able to save this election. By that I mean, poll so badly they have no choice but to replace the hapless and hugely unpopular Biden/Harris ticket.

The party power brokers seem to be all in on the notion that Trump is so unpalatable that he simply won't win when push comes to shove. It's a dangerous gamble that might not pay off. I would suggest they don't take it.

I'll be interested to see how the debate goes.
 

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Ironically, if the Dems had even more voters that don't want to vote for them, they might be able to save this election. By that I mean, poll so badly they have no choice but to replace the hapless and hugely unpopular Biden/Harris ticket.

The party power brokers seem to be all in on the notion that Trump is so unpalatable that he simply won't win when push comes to shove. It's a dangerous gamble that might not pay off. I would suggest they don't take it.

I'll be interested to see how the debate goes.


Supposedly the first debate is so early exactly because the party wants to see if Biden can actually debate at his age. Therefore if he can't they will replace him over the Summer with "someone". While on the other hand Trump simply wants more media attention through the debate. What is so that he can change the amount of bad press that he is getting due to his legal problems.


Perhaps this is indeed a conspiracy theory, but there is certain logic in all this.
 

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I mean the most alarming more recent data is actually from Virginia, Maine and Minnesota (if we judge by 538).


Virginia polls range from Biden +4 to TIE
Maine polls range from Biden +2 to Trump +1
Minnesota polls range from Biden +4 to Trump +5


But the problem from the Democratic side is that this shouldn't really be competitive. While the numbers evidently open the question: will these be the blue states in 2024 ? Plus this will surely drain the money that is evidently needed elsewhere. Hint: Arizona Trump +4.5, Georgia Trump +5.3


The whole map is about 5 points to the right of what should be "normal". And that is pretty evidently due to the voters that are kinda giving up. While placing your bets on large polling error is certainly a bad game plan.
 
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I mean the most alarming more recent data is actually from Virginia, Maine and Minnesota (if we judge by 538).


Virginia polls range from Biden +4 to TIE
Maine polls range from Biden +2 to Trump +1
Minnesota polls range from Biden +4 to Trump +5


But the problem from the Democratic side is that this shouldn't really be competitive. While the numbers evidently open the question: will these be the blue states in 2024 ? Plus this will surely drain the money that is evidently needed elsewhere. Hint: Arizona Trump +4.5, Georgia Trump +5.3


The whole map is about 5 points to the right of what should be "normal". And that is pretty evidently due to the voters that are kinda giving up. While placing your bets on large polling error is certainly a bad game plan.
I'm infuriated by it. While I will still vote for Biden, there are so many things about the Democratic party I find infuriating.

I will give a generous read of the Democratic Party and say that the Democrats don't put much effort or thought into anything because they believe people vote for them because it's the right thing to do, out of service to the country. They're fond of giving Republicans "enough rope to hang themselves by" which always works out well.

This doesn't explain why they are much more pragmatic and quick to take action when facing challengers from the left.
 
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Oh god, they're probably expecting the outcome of his court cases to carry the day for them.
 

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Influence Operations exist and are used often.
Even in this country.
YOU are a target, if you're active on social media. You're in it.
Think. Before you react.​
 
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