Smilephantomhive
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- MBTI Type
- ISTJ
- Enneagram
- 6w5
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/so
Yeah, I've made some other typing threads, but I wanted to make a new one focusing on enneagram.
I'm pretty sure 5 is my core type. I want to be competent. I try and know as much as I can before doing things. It is often said that fives fear helplessness, and that is true for me. In a perfect world I wouldn't need anyone's help with anything, and neither would anyone else.
I think I'm a 5w4 because I'm more introspective and individualistic than I would expect 5w6s to be.
I'm really not sure what my heart and gut fixes would be. I just copied this from PC and bolded the things that I relate to
Heart Types
Type 2
Basic Fear: Of being unwanted, unworthy of being loved
Basic Desire: To feel loved
Key Motivations: Want to be loved, to express their feelings for others, to be needed and appreciated, to get others to respond to them, to vindicate their claims about themselves.
Holy Idea: Freedom
Vice: Vainglory
Virtue: Altruism
Basic Drive: To make their ideal image into a reality
Type 3
Basic Fear: Of being worthless
Basic Desire: To feel valuable and worthwhile
Key Motivations: Want to be affirmed, to distinguish themselves from others, to have attention, to be admired, and to impress others.
Holy Idea: Hope
Vice: Deceit
Virtue: Truthfulness
Basic Drive: To be successful
Type 4
Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significance
Basic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an identity)
Key Motivations: Want to express themselves and their individuality, to create and surround themselves with beauty, to maintain certain moods and feelings, to withdraw to protect their self-image, to take care of emotional needs before attending to anything else, to attract a "rescuer."
Holy Idea: Origin
Vice: Envy
Virtue: Equanimity (calmness and composure)
Basic Drive: Isolation vs. Connection
Head Types
Type 5
Basic Fear: Being useless, helpless, or incapable
Basic Desire: To be capable and competent
Key Motivations: Want to possess knowledge, to understand the environment, to have everything figured out as a way of defending the self from threats from the environment.
Holy Idea: Omniscience
Vice: Avarice
Virtue: Detachment
Basic Drive: Conservation of Resources
Type 6
Basic Fear: Of being without support and guidance
Basic Desire: To have security and support
Key Motivations: Want to have security, to feel supported by others, to have certitude and reassurance, to test the attitudes of others toward them,to fight against anxiety and insecurity.
Holy Idea: Faith
Vice: Fear
Virtue: Courage
Basic Drive: Survival
Type 7
Basic Fear: Of being deprived and in pain
Basic Desire: To be satisfied and content—to have their needs fulfilled
Key Motivations: Want to maintain their freedom and happiness, to avoid missing out on worthwhile experiences, to keep themselves excited and occupied, to avoid and discharge pain.
Holy Idea: Planning
Vice: Gluttony
Virtue: Sobriety
Basic Drive: Pleasure versus Pain
Body Types
Type 8
Basic Fear: Of being harmed or controlled by others
Basic Desire: To protect themselves (to be in control of their own life and destiny)
Key Motivations: Want to be self-reliant, to prove their strength and resist weakness, to be important in their world, to dominate the environment, and to stay in control of their situation.
Holy Idea: Innocence/Truth
Vice: Lust
Virtue: Magnamity
Basic Drive: Survival (edit: since this is the same as a 6's drive, I'd suggest that the basic drive for an 8 is securing resources?)
Type 9
Basic Fear: Of loss and separation
Basic Desire: To have inner stability "peace of mind"
Key Motivations: Want to create harmony in their environment, to avoid conflicts and tension, to preserve things as they are, to resist whatever would upset or disturb them.
Holy Idea: Love
Vice: Indifference
Virtue: Serenity
Basic Drive: Peace
Type 1
Basic Fear: Of being corrupt/evil, defective
Basic Desire: To be good, to have integrity, to be balanced
Key Motivations: Want to be right, to strive higher and improve everything, to be consistent with their ideals, to justify themselves, to be beyond criticism so as not to be condemned by anyone.
Holy Idea: Perfection
Vice: Resentment
Virtue: Right Action
Basic Drive: To be incorruptible
Judging by what I bolded I guess I would be a 583 or 584, but I want someone else's input.
I'm pretty sure 5 is my core type. I want to be competent. I try and know as much as I can before doing things. It is often said that fives fear helplessness, and that is true for me. In a perfect world I wouldn't need anyone's help with anything, and neither would anyone else.
I think I'm a 5w4 because I'm more introspective and individualistic than I would expect 5w6s to be.
I'm really not sure what my heart and gut fixes would be. I just copied this from PC and bolded the things that I relate to
Heart Types
Type 2
Basic Fear: Of being unwanted, unworthy of being loved
Basic Desire: To feel loved
Key Motivations: Want to be loved, to express their feelings for others, to be needed and appreciated, to get others to respond to them, to vindicate their claims about themselves.
Holy Idea: Freedom
Vice: Vainglory
Virtue: Altruism
Basic Drive: To make their ideal image into a reality
Type 3
Basic Fear: Of being worthless
Basic Desire: To feel valuable and worthwhile
Key Motivations: Want to be affirmed, to distinguish themselves from others, to have attention, to be admired, and to impress others.
Holy Idea: Hope
Vice: Deceit
Virtue: Truthfulness
Basic Drive: To be successful
Type 4
Basic Fear: That they have no identity or personal significance
Basic Desire: To find themselves and their significance (to create an identity)
Key Motivations: Want to express themselves and their individuality, to create and surround themselves with beauty, to maintain certain moods and feelings, to withdraw to protect their self-image, to take care of emotional needs before attending to anything else, to attract a "rescuer."
Holy Idea: Origin
Vice: Envy
Virtue: Equanimity (calmness and composure)
Basic Drive: Isolation vs. Connection
Head Types
Type 5
Basic Fear: Being useless, helpless, or incapable
Basic Desire: To be capable and competent
Key Motivations: Want to possess knowledge, to understand the environment, to have everything figured out as a way of defending the self from threats from the environment.
Holy Idea: Omniscience
Vice: Avarice
Virtue: Detachment
Basic Drive: Conservation of Resources
Type 6
Basic Fear: Of being without support and guidance
Basic Desire: To have security and support
Key Motivations: Want to have security, to feel supported by others, to have certitude and reassurance, to test the attitudes of others toward them,to fight against anxiety and insecurity.
Holy Idea: Faith
Vice: Fear
Virtue: Courage
Basic Drive: Survival
Type 7
Basic Fear: Of being deprived and in pain
Basic Desire: To be satisfied and content—to have their needs fulfilled
Key Motivations: Want to maintain their freedom and happiness, to avoid missing out on worthwhile experiences, to keep themselves excited and occupied, to avoid and discharge pain.
Holy Idea: Planning
Vice: Gluttony
Virtue: Sobriety
Basic Drive: Pleasure versus Pain
Body Types
Type 8
Basic Fear: Of being harmed or controlled by others
Basic Desire: To protect themselves (to be in control of their own life and destiny)
Key Motivations: Want to be self-reliant, to prove their strength and resist weakness, to be important in their world, to dominate the environment, and to stay in control of their situation.
Holy Idea: Innocence/Truth
Vice: Lust
Virtue: Magnamity
Basic Drive: Survival (edit: since this is the same as a 6's drive, I'd suggest that the basic drive for an 8 is securing resources?)
Type 9
Basic Fear: Of loss and separation
Basic Desire: To have inner stability "peace of mind"
Key Motivations: Want to create harmony in their environment, to avoid conflicts and tension, to preserve things as they are, to resist whatever would upset or disturb them.
Holy Idea: Love
Vice: Indifference
Virtue: Serenity
Basic Drive: Peace
Type 1
Basic Fear: Of being corrupt/evil, defective
Basic Desire: To be good, to have integrity, to be balanced
Key Motivations: Want to be right, to strive higher and improve everything, to be consistent with their ideals, to justify themselves, to be beyond criticism so as not to be condemned by anyone.
Holy Idea: Perfection
Vice: Resentment
Virtue: Right Action
Basic Drive: To be incorruptible
Judging by what I bolded I guess I would be a 583 or 584, but I want someone else's input.