Ideal Qualities for a Statesperson/Administrator

[yeghor]

I propose an exercise to build the ideal statesperson/administrator character using Dungeons and Dragons character mechanics.

If you were to appoint someone as an administrator/statesperson (hence delegate them rights to enforce rules on you) to decide on the country's needs, the actions to satisfy those needs and collect, manage and distribute finances for that purpose what qualities would you want to see in them?

You can also do the same exercise for any domain where an overseer/administrator/authority is required, such as a residential complex, a department, a school, a household etc.

Once you've decided on their qualities, please convert them to ability scores below out of a total of 84 points. You can distribute points to each ability, in a range of minimum 10 and maximum 18 for each ability.

The abilities for the proposed character are as follows, please copy paste the abilities and put in the proposed score for each ability, and if you will, provide a brief justification why you favored certain abilities over the others.

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength
2.Dexterity/Agility
3.Constitution/Health
4.Intelligence/Logic
5.Wisdom/Willpower
6.Charisma/Appeal
7.Compassion/Empathy

Thanks for the responses.

 

[yeghor]

Here's how I imagine an ideal statesperson should be.

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10
2.Dexterity/Agility	10
3.Constitution/Health	10
4.Intelligence/Logic	15	To be able to come up with optimal ways to manage the society
5.Wisdom/Willpower	16	To remain dutiful and not miss the big picture and long term goals
6.Charisma/Appeal	10
7.Compassion/Empathy	13	To be able to sympathize with the plights of the members of society

 

[yeghor]

If I had 7 extra points to allocate, taking the sum to 91 (13 points for 7 abilities each = 7x13=91), I would increase health and charisma and compassion some more like below.

What kind of DnD character would you play with these stats/abilities?

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 91)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10
2.Dexterity/Agility	10
3.Constitution/Health	10+1
4.Intelligence/Logic	15+1	To be able to come up with optimal ways to manage the society
5.Wisdom/Willpower	16+1	To remain dutiful and not miss the big picture and long term goals
6.Charisma/Appeal	10+3	To be able to appeal to public better
7.Compassion/Empathy	13+1	To be able to sympathize with the plights of the members of society

 

[yeghor]

If I had 7 extra points to allocate, taking the sum to 91 (13 points for 7 abilities each = 7x13=91), I would increase health and charisma and compassion some more like below.

What kind of DnD character would you play with these stats/abilities?

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 91)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10
2.Dexterity/Agility	10
3.Constitution/Health	10+1
4.Intelligence/Logic	15+1	To be able to come up with optimal ways to manage the society
5.Wisdom/Willpower	16+1	To remain dutiful and not miss the big picture and long term goals
6.Charisma/Appeal	10+3	To be able to appeal to public better
7.Compassion/Empathy	13+1	To be able to sympathize with the plights of the members of society

A high Wisdom and Charisma would help with Priest (Divine Caster) classes in DnD and a high Intelligence would help with Wizard/spellcaster classes.

So a mixture of Cleric/Wizard type would suit these stats. A scholar of divine/metaphysics and Sciences/Physics at the same time.

Cleric/Wizard Combo

Wizard/Druid Combo

Cleric/Wizard combo

 

[ygolo]

I guess I'll play. I haven't done one of these RPGs in ages. Mine would be even more extreme than yours. I figure the statesperson would have a team that can augment, and if truly wise and charismatic, can pull that team to their side.

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
2.Dexterity/Agility	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
3.Constitution/Health	10	Some ailment isn't horrible, kept at minimum for points needed in other areas
4.Intelligence/Logic	10	Would love for this to be higher, but reserving for wisdom and charisma
5.Wisdom/Willpower	18	Maximum for best forward direction (at least it is in my ideals)
6.Charisma/Appeal	16	Maximum after wisdom for getting people to help in the wisest direction going
7.Compassion/Empathy	10	Would really love for this to be higher but reserving for wisdom and charisma

 

[yeghor]

I guess I'll play. I haven't done one of these RPGs in ages. Mine would be even more extreme than yours. I figure the statesperson would have a team that can augment, and if truly wise and charismatic, can pull that team to their side.

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
2.Dexterity/Agility	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
3.Constitution/Health	10	Some ailment isn't horrible, kept at minimum for points needed in other areas
4.Intelligence/Logic	10	Would love for this to be higher, but reserving for wisdom and charisma
5.Wisdom/Willpower	18	Maximum for best forward direction (at least it is in my ideals)
6.Charisma/Appeal	16	Maximum after wisdom for getting people to help in the wisest direction going
7.Compassion/Empathy	10	Would really love for this to be higher but reserving for wisdom and charisma

High Wisdom and Charisma would probably mean a Priest/Cleric class of some sorts however low empathy is a bit concerning, meaning this character could be very uncaring for or unaffected by human suffering when managing the country, as you also mentioned.

After my initial post I noticed I was too stringent with the available ability points. At first I imagined it as 12 points for 7 stats each = for a total of 84. If you like, you can distribute an additional 7, to bring the total to 91.

 

[ygolo]

High Wisdom and Charisma would probably mean a Priest/Cleric class of some sorts however low empathy is a bit concerning, meaning this character could be very uncaring for or unaffected by human suffering when managing the country, as you also mentioned.

After my initial post I noticed I was too stringent with the available ability points. At first I imagined it as 12 points for 7 stats each = for a total of 84. If you like, you can distribute an additional 7, to bring the total to 91.

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
2.Dexterity/Agility	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
3.Constitution/Health	10	Some ailment isn't horrible, kept at minimum for points needed in other areas
4.Intelligence/Logic	10+2	Would love for this to be higher, but reserving for wisdom and charisma
5.Wisdom/Willpower	18	Maximum for best forward direction (at least it is in my ideals)
6.Charisma/Appeal	16+2	Maximum after wisdom for getting people to help in the wisest direction going
7.Compassion/Empathy	10+3	Would really love for this to be higher but reserving for wisdom and charisma

I have a tendency in character building to be hyper-specialized, relying on the team to cover weaknesses. I figure if you are looking for a statesperson, I would maximize charisma next, then split empathy and intelligence (assuming you still have a cap at 18).

There is a 5E D&D race that seems ideal

Kalashtar - DND 5th Edition

dnd5e.wikidot.com

A more in depth description is at this link.

Kalashtar are telepaths, have the most resilient minds, and have true power within the dream realm. Kalashtars are technically unique to the Eberron campaign setting, like a changeling, but these psionic powerhouses are brimming with psychic powers and are finding their way into countless 5e campaigns.

 

[yeghor]

ABILITIES	Proposed score (b/w 10 to 18 for each, sum not to exceed 84)	Reasoning/Remarks (if any)
1.Physical Strength	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
2.Dexterity/Agility	10	Minimum, because we live in the modern era
3.Constitution/Health	10	Some ailment isn't horrible, kept at minimum for points needed in other areas
4.Intelligence/Logic	10+2	Would love for this to be higher, but reserving for wisdom and charisma
5.Wisdom/Willpower	18	Maximum for best forward direction (at least it is in my ideals)
6.Charisma/Appeal	16+2	Maximum after wisdom for getting people to help in the wisest direction going
7.Compassion/Empathy	10+3	Would really love for this to be higher but reserving for wisdom and charisma

I have a tendency in character building to be hyper-specialized, relying on the team to cover weaknesses. I figure if you are looking for a statesperson, I would maximize charisma next, then split empathy and intelligence (assuming you still have a cap at 18).

There is a 5E D&D race that seems ideal

Kalashtar - DND 5th Edition

dnd5e.wikidot.com

A more in depth description is at this link.

Turns out Kalashtar inhabit host human bodies and exist as two consciences inside the same body. There was a movie called Host exploring a similar subject.

Good thing they made them Lawful Good otherwise it would turn into something like parasytic Goa'uld from the Stargate universe.

 

[ygolo]

You kinda got me wanting to play a DnD like RPG again.

Have you ever played on:

Roll20

Roll20 brings pen-and-paper gameplay to your browser with features that save time and enhance your favorite parts of tabletop games.

roll20.net

?

 

[yeghor]

You kinda got me wanting to play a DnD like RPG again.

Have you ever played on:

Roll20

Roll20 brings pen-and-paper gameplay to your browser with features that save time and enhance your favorite parts of tabletop games.

roll20.net

?

No, the last time I played tabletop was about 20 years ago I guess. I lost my enthusiasm for it for some reason

 

[yeghor]

Which one would you have govern you as a statesperson? Or who else from the Marvel Universe?

 

[Pionart]

They should be a good person.

 

[yeghor]

They should be a good person.

How to measure that though? Which characters below would fit the bill?

 

[Pionart]

How to measure that though? Which characters below would fit the bill?

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Uhh none of them fit the bill because a very evil person created them.

Superheroes aren't heroic.


I haven't found a way to define what makes someone good yet. Work in progress.