LightSun
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Group Thinking: "What is the problem with mob hysteria and group thinking? Do you have the moral fortitude to break away from a group thought stemming in small part by societies, parental and peer norms that you experience externally? Do you consider yourself to be an individual who makes informed decisions irregardless if whether it is popular or not?
Do you follow societal norms without question or hesitation? I wish finding out at least in corollary on whether you possess an Internal Locus of Control or an External Locus of control? Another variable bear looking into is do you have low self esteem or high esteem? Another factor is what is your Myers Briggs Type? Which type is more likely to fall into line and which type is less prone to be following the masses?
Quote:
"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." Albert Einstein
Quote:
“Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice.†Steve Jobs
"Conformity refers to the person's modification of behavior to be consistent with the norms of the group. We seem to have a "herd" or "mob" mentality. It is a minority percentage that rises above this herd or mob mentality. Solomon Asch conducted a classic study on conformity. Solomon Asch found many people will conform to a group judgment even when they know what they are saying is incorrect. This is the danger of the media. If they show aberrant behavior for sensationalism and ratings, that behavior is in danger of being modeled by a segment of the population.
There needs to be more professionalism and ethics in the media. Which comes first; the aberrant behavior in the media, or aberrant behavior in the public? Just to pick on one example and that is rap music with language that is at times derogatory to women as well as violent. Is the music a reflection or a partial cause of certain behaviors? Solomon Asch used lines on two cards, asking eight subjects placed in a row to compare the line on card A to three comparison lines on card B. Only the last subject was a real subject, the seven others were "stooges", also called "confederates", trained to give wrong answers some of the time.
Most of the time the first seven stooges would give the obviously right answer to the test on visual discrimination. But sometimes all seven would give the wrong answer. What happened to the real subject in the situation? You probably guessed that indeed most of the time the subjects conformed to the group norm. They gave the same incorrect answer the other stooges had given. Generally three out of four people went along with the crowd rather than disagreeing with others. This study was particularly important because the students did not know each other and did not face each other, eliminating obvious group pressure.
Also the task involved visual discrimination of line length, a non issue involving no attitudes or values that might have social norms or rules that would influence conformity. Do we conform to the group even if we feel no direct group pressure or influence? How this Interconnection works out in a positive way, is when there is an emergency. A certain individual will jump into a burning building to save a stranger. The Ash experiment repeated often with varied subject populations, reveals that the tendencies to yield to even imagined group pressure is strong.
"Conformity refers to the person's modification of behavior to be consistent with the norms of the group. We seem to have a "herd" or "mob" mentality. It is a minority percentage that rises above this herd or mob mentality. Solomon Asch conducted a classic study on conformity. Solomon Asch found many people will conform to a group judgment even when they know what they are saying is incorrect. This is the danger of the media. If they show aberrant behavior for sensationalism and ratings, that behavior is in danger of being modeled by a segment of the population.
There needs to be more professionalism and ethics in the media. Which comes first; the aberrant behavior in the media, or aberrant behavior in the public? Just to pick on one example and that is rap music with language that is at times derogatory to women as well as violent. Is the music a reflection or a partial cause of certain behaviors? Solomon Asch used lines on two cards, asking eight subjects placed in a row to compare the line on card A to three comparison lines on card B. Only the last subject was a real subject, the seven others were "stooges", also called "confederates", trained to give wrong answers some of the time.
Most of the time the first seven stooges would give the obviously right answer to the test on visual discrimination. But sometimes all seven would give the wrong answer. What happened to the real subject in the situation? You probably guessed that indeed most of the time the subjects conformed to the group norm. They gave the same incorrect answer the other stooges had given. Generally three out of four people went along with the crowd rather than disagreeing with others. This study was particularly important because the students did not know each other and did not face each other, eliminating obvious group pressure.
Also the task involved visual discrimination of line length, a non issue involving no attitudes or values that might have social norms or rules that would influence conformity. Do we conform to the group even if we feel no direct group pressure or influence? How this Interconnection works out in a positive way, is when there is an emergency. A certain individual will jump into a burning building to save a stranger. The Ash experiment repeated often with varied subject populations, reveals that the tendencies to yield to even imagined group pressure is strong."
Do you follow societal norms without question or hesitation? I wish finding out at least in corollary on whether you possess an Internal Locus of Control or an External Locus of control? Another variable bear looking into is do you have low self esteem or high esteem? Another factor is what is your Myers Briggs Type? Which type is more likely to fall into line and which type is less prone to be following the masses?
Quote:
"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." Albert Einstein
Quote:
“Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice.†Steve Jobs
"Conformity refers to the person's modification of behavior to be consistent with the norms of the group. We seem to have a "herd" or "mob" mentality. It is a minority percentage that rises above this herd or mob mentality. Solomon Asch conducted a classic study on conformity. Solomon Asch found many people will conform to a group judgment even when they know what they are saying is incorrect. This is the danger of the media. If they show aberrant behavior for sensationalism and ratings, that behavior is in danger of being modeled by a segment of the population.
There needs to be more professionalism and ethics in the media. Which comes first; the aberrant behavior in the media, or aberrant behavior in the public? Just to pick on one example and that is rap music with language that is at times derogatory to women as well as violent. Is the music a reflection or a partial cause of certain behaviors? Solomon Asch used lines on two cards, asking eight subjects placed in a row to compare the line on card A to three comparison lines on card B. Only the last subject was a real subject, the seven others were "stooges", also called "confederates", trained to give wrong answers some of the time.
Most of the time the first seven stooges would give the obviously right answer to the test on visual discrimination. But sometimes all seven would give the wrong answer. What happened to the real subject in the situation? You probably guessed that indeed most of the time the subjects conformed to the group norm. They gave the same incorrect answer the other stooges had given. Generally three out of four people went along with the crowd rather than disagreeing with others. This study was particularly important because the students did not know each other and did not face each other, eliminating obvious group pressure.
Also the task involved visual discrimination of line length, a non issue involving no attitudes or values that might have social norms or rules that would influence conformity. Do we conform to the group even if we feel no direct group pressure or influence? How this Interconnection works out in a positive way, is when there is an emergency. A certain individual will jump into a burning building to save a stranger. The Ash experiment repeated often with varied subject populations, reveals that the tendencies to yield to even imagined group pressure is strong.
"Conformity refers to the person's modification of behavior to be consistent with the norms of the group. We seem to have a "herd" or "mob" mentality. It is a minority percentage that rises above this herd or mob mentality. Solomon Asch conducted a classic study on conformity. Solomon Asch found many people will conform to a group judgment even when they know what they are saying is incorrect. This is the danger of the media. If they show aberrant behavior for sensationalism and ratings, that behavior is in danger of being modeled by a segment of the population.
There needs to be more professionalism and ethics in the media. Which comes first; the aberrant behavior in the media, or aberrant behavior in the public? Just to pick on one example and that is rap music with language that is at times derogatory to women as well as violent. Is the music a reflection or a partial cause of certain behaviors? Solomon Asch used lines on two cards, asking eight subjects placed in a row to compare the line on card A to three comparison lines on card B. Only the last subject was a real subject, the seven others were "stooges", also called "confederates", trained to give wrong answers some of the time.
Most of the time the first seven stooges would give the obviously right answer to the test on visual discrimination. But sometimes all seven would give the wrong answer. What happened to the real subject in the situation? You probably guessed that indeed most of the time the subjects conformed to the group norm. They gave the same incorrect answer the other stooges had given. Generally three out of four people went along with the crowd rather than disagreeing with others. This study was particularly important because the students did not know each other and did not face each other, eliminating obvious group pressure.
Also the task involved visual discrimination of line length, a non issue involving no attitudes or values that might have social norms or rules that would influence conformity. Do we conform to the group even if we feel no direct group pressure or influence? How this Interconnection works out in a positive way, is when there is an emergency. A certain individual will jump into a burning building to save a stranger. The Ash experiment repeated often with varied subject populations, reveals that the tendencies to yield to even imagined group pressure is strong."
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Don't you think that if people stop relying on others to show the truth and tell them how to think, nobody would care to watch Fox news and the like, or at least, won't be brainwashed by these? IMO, people should learn to take responsibility for their actions and beliefs. Group thinking is shared responsibility, that's why it's so easy - if everybody is involved no one could be wrong or guilty.
