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EIE-Fe vs EIE-Ni

xXMariahXx

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Can anyone describe differences between the two subtypes or give a link?

I've read the sociotype.com descriptions of the two subtypes, but it's not enough information for me to figure out which one I am.. because I'm a lot of both descriptions. I've searched on the internet but can't find any other description.

:bookish:

:sherlock:

:shrug:
 
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Can anyone describe differences between the two subtypes or give a link?

I've read the sociotype.com descriptions of the two subtypes, but it's not enough information for me to figure out which one I am.. because I'm a lot of both descriptions. I've searched on the internet but can't find any other description.
Visually EIE-Fe has a warmer look in the eyes. EIE-Ni looks more impassive and steely.
EIE-Fe is more likely to consider types like SLE and SEE for themselves. They have strong Se hidden agenda and focus a lot on it. This leads them to believe that they could be Se-leads.
EIE-Ni is likely to try out types like IEI, ILI, LSI. They have strong Ni and Ti, and may think themselves an introvert. They space out similar to Ni-leads.

Also this: Socionics - the16types.info - Type and subtype descriptions by Meged and Ovch
... and this: https://web.archive.org/web/2013101...socionix.com/topic/1083-the-two-enfj-subtypes


Ni-ENFj

Intense, impulsive, unpredictable, magnetic. Mood is labile, activity levels are erratic. More forceful and domineering in how they engage with people. Has a piercing, raw visceral awareness for getting inside of peoples heads. Invasively deciphers them without restraint, knows what makes them tick, and how to work them. Likes to test people and thrives on getting reactions out of people, especially if it involves pushing the envelope. When unhealthy, they can be extremely manipulative and very controlling of others, and takes license to "shape" those close to them to whatever they deem "necessary" for that person. Within their controlled exterior swells a volatile edginess that tends to make others uneasy - the impression is that one never knows if/when they might explode and how severely. Furiously confrontational if provoked, the force of anger capable in this type has no equal. Though at the same time their intense and enigmatic presence often draws people in with a mesmerizing sway. Likes to be mysterious, eccentric, weird, and is often drawn to very abstract and mystical thinking. Often has a highly vivid imagination and a powerful visionary creativity. Makes decisions and acts through inspiration and instinct, rather than through intellect and reason. Can get obsessively fixated over notions of struggle and sacrifice, the sheer fanaticism of which can fuel imperatives of cosmic significance in their mind. More unhealthy ones will glorify violence and the darker macabre aspects of human nature.

Examples: Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Malcolm X, Anthony Hopkins, Dennis Hopper, Jack Nicholson, Christopher Walken, Salvidor Dali, Pablo Picasso, Frank Frazetta, G.I. Gurdjieff, Scarlett Johansson

Fe-ENFj

Charming, gregarious, playful, judicious. Mood tends to be calmer and more stable. Generally their presence puts people at ease and positively uplifts the social atmosphere around them. Sharp observer of people, sees them for who they are, but without aggressively invading the person's psyche. Very humorous and often possesses a characteristic wit, makes utterly hilarious quips that are somehow perfect in delivery and target. Tends to be universally well-liked and popular among those who know them. Prefers to be diplomatic and knows how to get most people on their side, likes to deter confrontation but won't shy from it if it's necessary. Never one to be trifled with and soundly puts any offending interlocutor in their place with an elegant finesse. Very caring for those close to them and readily supportive, but in a distinctly non-smothering way. Does not like dependency, wants those close to them be self-sufficient and independent. Invaluable source for honest criticism and applicable insight into life. More pragmatically-minded and concerned with what is realistically attainable, more grounded in what is reasonable. Not likely to make rash decisions, but carefully reasons out plans and goals, and pursues goals with disciplined and steady perseverance. Can be extremely prolific and inventive, and often has many side hobbies they like to stay busy tinkering with. Some become incredibly diverse polymaths who are skilled and interested in many things, which can range from theoretical physics to crop farming.

Examples: John F. Kennedy, Margaret Thatcher, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, Benjamin Franklin, Hugh Hefner, Mark Twain, Richard Feynman, Voltaire, Oscar Wilde, Jerry Springer, Charlize Theron
 

xXMariahXx

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Thank you very much! That is helpful. It's confusing, because I seem like both subtypes in different ways, but your tips confirm what's beginning to be clearer to me - Ni subtype.

Visually EIE-Fe has a warmer look in the eyes. EIE-Ni looks more impassive and steely.

My normal default is that impassive, steely look, but whenever I catch myself, I consciously adopt the warmer Fe look so that I don't seem unapproachable.

EIE-Ni is likely to try out types like IEI

I often find myself relating with INFJ descriptions maybe even more than ENFJ. (But I'm certain that I'm ENFJ).

may think themselves an introvert. They space out similar to Ni-leads.

Yes. I always test out near the extravert/introvert border. And often space out. I sometimes think I live more in my head than in reality.
 

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An EIE-Fe would be more focused on Fe and Se while an EIE-Ni would be more focused on Ni and Ti.
 
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