Digital Lion
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1.) Is this barely intelligible tirade indirectly directed at me concerning our previous conversation here?
ENTJ in popular culture
How un-ENTJ/enneagram 8 of you to not address and confront me specifically. lol Tsk. With every new day, you're looking more and more like an ISFP desperately "gripping" onto Te.
When I said Fe+Si users, I was not saying Fe AND Si users; I was referring to function stacking and Fe being followed by Si, as in Dominant extroverted feeling and auxiliary introverted sensing, an ESFJ. I was comparing Fe+Si users (ESFJs) with Fe+Ni users (ENFJs)!
When I read your last comment in that thread, I instantly realized that you had misunderstood what I said (because your counterpoint didn't necessarily contradict what I actually said as opposed to what you mistakenly thought I said) but by that time, I had lost interest because I saw the bigger, more immediately pressing problem we were having...
2.) Your English language skills are woefully subpar and insufficient for complex and deeply nuanced discussions. Subsequently, that leads to a lot of miscommunication and misunderstandings, concerning both parties, but particularly yours. If I were an asshole, I'd suggest that you either substantially develop your English language proficiency before you assert and insert yourself into conversations you are unable to competently grasp OR just stay in your lane and STFU. But I'm being nice today and so I'd simply suggest that you show/carry out greater due diligence in better comprehending what others are saying. Online there are a plethora of resources that might help with this:
Google Translate
Linguee | Dictionary for German, French, Spanish, and more
Dictionary, Encyclopedia and Thesaurus - The Free Dictionary
TranslatorsCafe.com — a Place for Translators, Interpreters, Voice Talents, Other Language Professionals and Their Clients.
Snark aside, I don't mean any of this as a slight. I speak 3 languages at native level and 2 more I frequently use but routinely fuck up--one of the best ways to practice is to immerse oneself in complicated dialogue but one must also realize their limitations and improve upon them, as opposed to doubling down on their errors and looking quite foolish. Real ENTJs don't like incompetence.
1.) Is this barely intelligible tirade indirectly directed at me concerning our previous conversation here?
ENTJ in popular culture
This is why it's vitally important to distinguish how a certain cognitive function might manifest based on which function follows it.
Fe+Si users are more inclined to uphold and enforce "objective ethics," from a traditionalist "this is what's always worked, this is how things have always been done, this is what everyone does," fashion. Fe+Ni users, on the other hand, are more apt to visualize and foresee what the collective "objective ethics" should\will be and take the lead in bringing these visions to fruition. MLK Jr., like Adolf Hitler (who, yes, I know was allegedly INFJ but Ni+Fe manifests similarly), had their own personalized, self-actualized version of what the "objective ethics" should be (that existed somewhat outside the prevailing "objective ethics" of the day) and went about radically changing their respective environments and the ethics/value systems that presided over them. ENJs are more so the bold visionaries and vanguards. And ESJs tend to be the loyal and dutiful guardians, defending and administering what ENJs have put forth and established.
And so if I am, in fact, an ENFJ, then it would be natural and customary for me to determine the "objective ethics" for everyone else, based off of my own personalized motivations!
No. Hitler did things what he did because he sow it as "greater good". This is very unhealthy example of Fe user when he/she use his functions for manipulation of people which is more common for Thinkers then for Ethics. Fe knows what is moral or not in his head, especially if he/she is INFJ and there is no connection with Si. Ethics comes from Feeling function not with Si. Si is like machine who will do whatever is normal by the code of established system! Si wants to belong to system so if system provides decency and immoral values Si will fit in box of system and if system change Si wants to restore system before.. "Why this system is established? So we can serve. So if the system is wrong I will rather dream about systems before which was destructible as well but still I will do it because I hoped we are wronged..." "I am not from this age and point to the past" and so on. On another hand Se is also traditionalist but Se is more about "What does the system provide me? What benefit am I have from it?" (Ni-Se) Se is traditionalist because Se wants the system stay as it is! Like: "This is how world operates!" So only difference between them is that Si is more focused on the world itself like Ni and Se wants more focused to experience the world just like Ne and enjoy in its benefit. There is a hole in the system! Destroy the system! Brings revolution or whatever T wants.
How un-ENTJ/enneagram 8 of you to not address and confront me specifically. lol Tsk. With every new day, you're looking more and more like an ISFP desperately "gripping" onto Te.
When I said Fe+Si users, I was not saying Fe AND Si users; I was referring to function stacking and Fe being followed by Si, as in Dominant extroverted feeling and auxiliary introverted sensing, an ESFJ. I was comparing Fe+Si users (ESFJs) with Fe+Ni users (ENFJs)!
When I read your last comment in that thread, I instantly realized that you had misunderstood what I said (because your counterpoint didn't necessarily contradict what I actually said as opposed to what you mistakenly thought I said) but by that time, I had lost interest because I saw the bigger, more immediately pressing problem we were having...
2.) Your English language skills are woefully subpar and insufficient for complex and deeply nuanced discussions. Subsequently, that leads to a lot of miscommunication and misunderstandings, concerning both parties, but particularly yours. If I were an asshole, I'd suggest that you either substantially develop your English language proficiency before you assert and insert yourself into conversations you are unable to competently grasp OR just stay in your lane and STFU. But I'm being nice today and so I'd simply suggest that you show/carry out greater due diligence in better comprehending what others are saying. Online there are a plethora of resources that might help with this:
Google Translate
Linguee | Dictionary for German, French, Spanish, and more
Dictionary, Encyclopedia and Thesaurus - The Free Dictionary
TranslatorsCafe.com — a Place for Translators, Interpreters, Voice Talents, Other Language Professionals and Their Clients.
Snark aside, I don't mean any of this as a slight. I speak 3 languages at native level and 2 more I frequently use but routinely fuck up--one of the best ways to practice is to immerse oneself in complicated dialogue but one must also realize their limitations and improve upon them, as opposed to doubling down on their errors and looking quite foolish. Real ENTJs don't like incompetence.