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Cold war 2.0

Virtual ghost

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There is some movement in the German political party landscape.

To tell you the truth there is something serious that I wanted to ask you for some time. In your view what are the the odds that Germany would declare some kind of wartime economy at this point ? I mean this is the move that should come from bigger EU members and then smaller members should follow. I mean at this point we have substantial amount of wars on our doorstep and US is getting pretty wobbly on the inside. There is this massive war in Ukraine, there is Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, Syria, mess in Iraq, Gaza, Yemen/Red Sea, Civil war in Sudan, Libya, Western Sahara, coups in Sahel ... plus this entire show with migrants and trafficking. Also there is a few more conflicts that could activate easily and there is also climate related damage. It is true that EU when combined has third largest defense budget in the world. However we are awkwardly static if we consider what is going on. To the point that this isn't really working in our favor while the stakes are quite substantial.




While the other question is for everyone that want's to answer it.
For years there is this talk that Midwest will reindustrialize. So I am wondering how is that going and is anything significant done in that regard ?
I mean if all hell brakes lose globally it is quite smart to have industry that is quite far from any kind of conflict zones.
 

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To tell you the truth there is something serious that I wanted to ask you for some time. In your view what are the the odds that Germany would declare some kind of wartime economy at this point ? I mean this is the move that should come from bigger EU members and then smaller members should follow. I mean at this point we have substantial amount of wars on our doorstep and US is getting pretty wobbly on the inside. There is this massive war in Ukraine, there is Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, Syria, mess in Iraq, Gaza, Yemen/Red Sea, Civil war in Sudan, Libya, Western Sahara, coups in Sahel ... plus this entire show with migrants and trafficking. Also there is a few more conflicts that could activate easily and there is also climate related damage. It is true that EU when combined has third largest defense budget in the world. However we are awkwardly static if we consider what is going on. To the point that this isn't really working in our favor while the stakes are quite substantial.




While the other question is for everyone that want's to answer it.
For years there is this talk that Midwest will reindustrialize. So I am wondering how is that going and is anything significant done in that regard ?
I mean if all hell brakes lose globally it is quite smart to have industry that is quite far from any kind of conflict zones.
Is the Midwest reindustrializing? Yes. But not in the way it once was. The US south is where industry currently is. They're rarely unionized, hence are paid much less and attractive to business and the cost of living is lower than the Midwest. But there is more talent in the Midwest/Rust Belt with highly skilled people than in the South - the South simply doesn't have the university infrastructure to send people straight into manufacturing jobs (U-Michigan has an entire engineering school dedicated to this for obvious reasons), U-Wisconsin - Madison, Northwestern in Chicago... I can only speak for what Michigan is doing and the push from the governor on down is economic. We have the talent, we have the industrial infrastructure and frankly, we have a way more stable place for employees to live. And it's still affordable. The one place that is going to stay ahead in chemical, oil and gas is Texas (TX A&M University). But I sure as hell wouldn't want to live there anymore than I would want to live in the most polluted areas of Detroit.
 

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Is the Midwest reindustrializing? Yes. But not in the way it once was. The US south is where industry currently is. They're rarely unionized, hence are paid much less and attractive to business and the cost of living is lower than the Midwest. But there is more talent in the Midwest/Rust Belt with highly skilled people than in the South - the South simply doesn't have the university infrastructure to send people straight into manufacturing jobs (U-Michigan has an entire engineering school dedicated to this for obvious reasons), U-Wisconsin - Madison, Northwestern in Chicago... I can only speak for what Michigan is doing and the push from the governor on down is economic. We have the talent, we have the industrial infrastructure and frankly, we have a way more stable place for employees to live. And it's still affordable. The one place that is going to stay ahead in chemical, oil and gas is Texas (TX A&M University). But I sure as hell wouldn't want to live there anymore than I would want to live in the most polluted areas of Detroit.


Thanks, since I don't fully trust random info on the internet. Because there is plenty of bragging and let's make it look more good than it is. But ok, at least something is being done. In other words I would be quite happy that I have some industry behind my back. As you probably know Bosnia is on the edge of another civil war. That on itself isn't really the news, however this time all of this is perhaps for real. Certain legal processes have risen tensions and now Russia friendly Serbian separatists may truly split from the federal government (as insults fly openly in media space). After all they already have their own local government for many years and therefore Bosnia as a country basically exists only on paper. However there is some talk that the west will take this as an act of war, and the same works for locals that prefer west over Russia. After all the war of the 90s is just frozen, all this time. There never was a genuine solution or the end (as you probably know). Plus for about a year and the half various analysts are wondering if Putin will open another front in the Balkans, in order to create a distraction from Ukraine. Therefore just about everything says that the time is right to unfreeze the war and finish the story. This will probably be diverted but if we consider how the world looks right now ... who knows. However I am evidently in the "blast radius" of this conflict. If some threats come true NATO will fly over me and bomb targets on the horizon. So yeah, having an option in getting a backup regarding various supplies would be nice. I know that this is drama heavy but a man sometimes wonder what cards does he really have. I didn't wrote that post in random fashion.


NATO's Stoltenberg concerned by secessionist rhetoric in Bosnia
Bosnian Serb Officials Targeted by US ‘Not Concerned’ by Sanctions
Bosnian Serb Leader Refuses to Enter Plea at Start of Trial


This is basically what got things "moving" over the last few months and now things seem to be on edge. Especially since to many over the years got boring to pretend that the country exists in practice. So if they indeed decide to go with separation over the incoming holidays the odds are that hell will brake loose. For which it is unclear how it is going to end. Unfortunately I was not asking this because I want to know how certain workers are doing. This question was more on the level of famous "I need ammunition, not a ride".
 

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This is almost hour long report on how EU came to be. From cold war to modern era.
Just in case someone is in the mood for large history lesson.
 
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