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The Cat

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Anglo-Saxons’ has long been associated with the early English people, but this label suffers from a long history of misuse. The scholarship and field supposedly draw their name from the people that scholars study, although the labels ‘Anglo-Saxonist’ and ‘Anglo-Saxon studies’ are also fraught with inaccuracies. The term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ (rather than the medieval ‘Anglo-Saxorum’ or ‘Anglo-Saxoria’) gained popularity in the eighteenth and nineteenth century as a means of connecting white people to their supposed origins. Historically, the people in early England or ‘Englelond’ did not call themselves ‘Anglo-Saxons’. The term was used sporadically during the early English period, but by and large, the people in early medieval England referred to themselves as ‘Englisc’ or ‘Anglecynn.’


In the centuries following the Norman Conquest of 1066, only scant references of the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ exist, most notably in reference to royal titles. It was not until the sixteenth century that English antiquarians and scholars began to collect early English manuscripts and compile dictionaries of Old English. This sudden interest in the early English period was not as benign as one might think. In contrast to the Catholic church, Protestant Reformers in England aimed to establish precedent for their sectarian beliefs by reinterpreting early medieval English Christianity to create links between the “primitive English church” and Reformers’ present day. Between the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries, an English nationalizing agenda emerged, centered on an English ‘race’ dependent upon an appropriation and a refashioning of the past. English discourse depicted the ‘Anglo-Saxons’ as reflecting ideals of national liberty.


Rather than accurately portray the early English people as separate tribes (most notably, Angles, Saxons, and Jutes) that migrated to the British Isle, the Anglo-Saxon myth links white people with an imagined heritage based on indigeneity to Britain. This false account of the ‘Anglo-Saxons’ as a nation and ‘race’ has played heavily in political discourse over the past 500 years, often reconstructed to include fictitious narratives to promote political messages of patriotism, imperialism, or racial superiority. As the English language—along with English imperialism—erased indigenous languages and swept across the globe, the Anglo-Saxon myth served as empirical ‘proof’ mandating racial superiority. The study of race fascinated scientists and ethnographers throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and equally, early twentieth-century Anglo-Saxonists directly worked with scientific racism in their scholarship, including phrenology. Their anachronistic medievalism ignored a more factual image of ‘others’ in England who had ancestral ties to the land. Despite the long history of invasion and integration in England, English scholars sought to imagine a direct connection to the ‘Anglo-Saxon’ past free from alien associations in order to cleanse English history of the ‘foreign’ elements that, in fact, constituted the English population. Today, far-right identitarian groups seeking to prove their superior ancestry by portraying the ‘Anglo-Saxons’ in ways that both promote English identity and national sociopolitical progress.
During British (and afterwards American) imperialism and colonization, the racial meaning of ‘Anglo-Saxon,’ became the most dominant usage of the term, rather than a historical reference to pre-Conquest England. This white supremacist movement in Euro-America has used the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ to justify racial violence and colonial genocide for at least 200 years. The racial meaning throughout the English-speaking world deepened and came to be associated crudely with whiteness. ‘Anglo-Saxon’ has become a supremacist dog-whistle reinforcing the idea of the ‘Anglo-Saxon race’ as an indigenous group in England. It suspiciously erases the fact that the Angle and Saxon peoples were ‘migrants’. The term’s association with whiteness has saturated our lexicon to the point that it is absurdly misused in political discourse.
 

yeghor

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So what do you suggest instead?
What is your reasoning?
Out of curiosity you're not a contrarian, or accelerationist by any chance are you?

With all due respect... You seem worried an awful lot about whatever straws didn't get held up for examination; I will point out that this is one nine minute video in a series that has been discussed since may so your...little straws are men that have already been addressed, though it seems perhaps...you must have missed researching them more. At least, your words indicate as such. But it's ok, sometimes on internet forums emotions lead seem to lead to posting feelings first, then comes the research. Just take a few deep breaths, relax, and the emotional response will calm, and you'll manage to get a handle on them. You wouldn't be the first nor the last. In and out...There we go. You got this. It seems very....human. But yes. If the peas under your pile of mattresses above is truly something that bothers you not discussed in this singular 9 minute video, calm your emotions, and scroll back up, do that dry emotionless research and buckle up....if you're arguing in good faith of course... He addresses the situation quite thoroughly over the course of several months; so depending on if its potentially triggering, it could take a while.

Also what's your background in military operations?
Sorry but I can't help but think of this. I don't need drama in my life.

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The Cat

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Sorry but I can't help but think of this. I don't need drama in my life.

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This is no surprise to the rest of us. No one here expects a good faith conversation with you....We know your playbook.
 

The Cat

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From Aprill 2022... I can see how that might be hard for someone to find....so long ago.


Huh, violent cutaway from 2005 apparently easy find... Weird.
gif from a direct to video movie from 1998. Apparently Easy to find... Wild.
Good faith discussion from someone advocating segregation...We're all still waiting.
We're not holding our breath though.
In any case....thank you for the show.
:popc1:
Here's your beer back.
 

yeghor

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From Aprill 2022... I can see how that might be hard for someone to find....so long ago.


Huh, violent cutaway from 2005 apparently easy find... Weird.
gif from a direct to video movie from 1998. Apparently Easy to find... Wild.
Good faith discussion from someone advocating segregation...We're all still waiting.
We're not holding our breath though.
In any case....thank you for the show.
:popc1:
Here's your beer back.
You don't seem to notice that you have already applied segregation yourselves in the forum, you know. It's now more like AltLeftCentral.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Ukr hasn't shown any significant ability to retake contested territory without voluntary russian withdrawal.
 

JAVO

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"This is Ukrainian land, and the occupiers can do only two things: run away or surrender. We leave them no other options."
- Zelensky

 

yeghor

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We're Being Trained To Worry About 'Russian Propaganda' While Drowning In US Propaganda - by Caitlin Johnstone
 

yeghor

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This video explains it all.

Palpatine = US Deep State (Military-Industrial Complex)
Darth Maul = CIA covert ops led by Victoria Nuland
Trade Federation = Ukraine
Naboo = Ethno-Russian Ukrainians in East Ukraine
Jedi = Russia's covert ops

Star Wars Phantom Menace Sidious scenes
 

The Cat

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Once you realize everything is propaganda...you're free to think about why...Emergency exits are here; here; here; here; here; anywhere. If you’re exiting, please gather your belongings, watch your head and step, and take small children by the hand. If there are guests waiting to board, please move across your car to make room for everyone. Please stand clear of the doors. Por favor manténgase alejado de las puertas. Relax says the night man. We are programmed to recieve. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. Once you can accept this without freaking out. You'll have more fun. Mind the Gap.
 

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Once you realize everything is propaganda...you're free to think about why...Emergency exits are here; here; here; here; here; anywhere. If you’re exiting, please gather your belongings, watch your head and step, and take small children by the hand. If there are guests waiting to board, please move across your car to make room for everyone. Please stand clear of the doors. Por favor manténgase alejado de las puertas. Relax says the night man. We are programmed to recieve. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. Once you can accept this without freaking out. You'll have more fun. Mind the Gap.
*frantically pats self down searching for my emergency parachute*
 

The Cat

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*frantically pats self down searching for my emergency parachute*

Don't worry. It was right next to the bag marked with silverware. Once you can learn to fall screaming out of a plane with only a 50/50 chance of your parachute not being just silverware.... without feeling anxious.... you'll have more fun.
 
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