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Cold war 2.0

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Nigel Farage comeback is Sunak’s worst nightmare


Just when it looked that it can't be any worse for the Conservatives that was proven wrong. As it is the Conservatives should win only about 10% of the parliament. However with this it should get even worse for the party. Not to mention that if just about 5% of the whole electorate leaves Conservatives for Farage that they would be tied in the polls. Plus he is also likely to win over some voters that decided to vote Labor due to their disgust with Conservatives. What means that Farage has open path of becoming the main right wing force in UK. What is basically a complete remake of national political landscape. Even if it is worth mentioning that he is basically the real conservative here and presents what the party used to stand for (for the most part).

Therefore this will be quite "interesting" to watch. Especially because neighboring France is preparing to elect it's own nationalistic party and in the Netherlands such party just entered the governing coalition as the largest party. While right and left wing anti-system parties should come on top in the Belgium, since there are national elections next weekend. What altogether shows that the existing political consensus in Western Europe is falling apart (for better or for worse).
 

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It is getting more narrow (and pretty quickly).
In a sense this is pretty much what happened in US during 2016 Republican primaries. The parallels are more than obvious.
 

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European Parliament Election 2024


Here are the last polling expectations about how this should turn out in the end. This is basically because in Sunday is the election night and voting has already started in some overseas territories. Therefore we have what we have, the show is coming to an end. The link shows how much each of the block should get across 27 member states and which parties should be in which block. There is way too many of them so they have to be divided into blocks made out of similar parties (in order to make things more functional). Since we are talking about 100+ political parties that have to make a coalition government.




How to watch the EU election like a Pro

Various details.
 

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European Parliament Election 2024


It started with the shock. Netherlands was for many months painted as black (far right). While in the end it will be Green progressive on the map of who got the most seats in the countries.

For months the media and adds are scaring people with far right and it is quite possible that this will work as a strategy for the most part. Especially since far right isn't quiet and people can see them as an active actor in the game (Instead of some imaginary threat that the media made up). In other words in the system where you have multiple parties the large changes in expected turnout can pretty quickly make the result that isn't expected in the polls. The Netherlands has basically just proven that we don't really know what will actually happen in these elections.
 

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It started with the shock. Netherlands was for many months painted as black (far right). While in the end it will be Green progressive on the map of who got the most seats in the countries.
Seems like the worst possible outcome. Lots of polarization and the middle is fading. Now you get either the terrible policies of the far left or the terrible policies of the far right (or at least you will have these two groups pulling in the opposite directions in the European parliament).
 

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Seems like the worst possible outcome. Lots of polarization and the middle is fading. Now you get either the terrible policies of the far left or the terrible policies of the far right (or at least you will have these two groups pulling in the opposite directions in the European parliament).

First of all Green-labor coalition isn't far left but center left. Plus over the last mandate they were coalition partners of the center in the European parliament. On all of that you can add that they aren't for dissolution of EU, what is a major element of the story. What evidently can't be said about Wilders. Plus they are pro Ukraine, while Widers isn't really.

Therefore win of Labor-green coalition is much better outcome than the alternative.
 
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