Entropie said:
I am a perfectionist myself, I tho dont see why this automatically forces you to be arrogant.
It doesn't. That's not what I was saying. Never mind.
Entropie said:
But are people really that objective ? Can someone really measure himself and assess his strengths and weaknesses in such a way he can purely obejctively analyze who he is are ? I rather think it's more likely for people to choose a type by preferance of who they subjectively want to be. The best example is me joining this site. When I did the mbti I scored ENTJ but when I signed up here I typed ENTP cause I found the description of the NTJ really hard and didnt wanted to be seen that way.
Maybe for some it is this way. But I can honestly say that I answered the questions objectively for myself and so have all my family and close friends who have taken it - and our types fit who we ARE, not who we want to be.
Entropie said:
If type doesnt form people, why are then some people ever changing their types again. One could say: because they think their choosen type doesnt fully say who they are and so they try a different.
Key word: "some" people. Not all.
Entropie said:
But and here comes the kicker, mbti is used for job assessments in your country and I think at this moment the line between dreamworld and reality is crossed.
It's not always used, and the decision to hire someone isn't based solely on MBTI results.
And if you want to be a Kindergarten teacher - go do it! I highly doubt that after someone is impressed by your resume and your skills and your interview, that they would decide NOT to hire you because they find out you're an ENTJ. If they don't hire a person, I highly doubt it's based on ONLY their MBTI result.
Entropie said:
I am just trieing to find out if someone cares for such things at all, cause I am looking for people who do. And as far I havent found this attitude in many INFJs and that is probably why I am disappointed in my own expectations.
I still honestly have no idea what exactly you want. Above, you say "such things" and "that attitude"... and I really have no idea what you're talking about. You titled your post "Are ISFJs the better INFJs?" which wasn't the point of the thread and
apparently only a passive-aggressive way of getting people to pay attention to said thread, then you get disappointed because you have these expectations that apparently we are not meeting - and I have no idea what you want.
Is the point of this thread the potential pit falls of MBTI?
Is it that INFJs suck? Because there's a thread for that that this stuff would REALLY fit well under.
Is it the topic of the theory that people type themselves on who they WANT to be, not who they actually are?
Because, honeslty, this thread is now 7 pages of miscommunication, and I'd like to know what we are -supposed- to be talking about here.
SpaceOddity said:
The people on message boards most likely won't help you (even if they honestly try); they don't know you personally, they can never get enough details about your situation and therefore can't really provide you valid advice. And MBTI won't help in this situation. Once I also thought it might, but in the end the problem proved to be much more individual than type related, and I believe it is like this 99,9% of time.
True, so please don't get mad at us.