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What hypothesis can be given to explain God?

LightSun

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First of all I’m not attacking religion nor a person’s right to believe. I am very open minded about the God debate.

Whenever I discuss the issue I always have to give a preamble. I’ve written this before. “I don’t care what you believe in or don’t. As long as you are willing to help make this a bette planet.

Let’s focus on our similarities and not our differences.Not only for ourselves but future generation.”

I don’t care if you are an atheist, Buddhist, Christian, or whatever faith you may have. Thomas Jefferson said this and I echo his statement.

He said that although he himself didn’t believe, he would fight for your right to believe and worship in any way you see fit.


“Hello Neil deGrasse Tyson what if this is true?

“The Holy Spirit is not an aspect of God but rather a human phenomena that is created by our own brain neurochemistry. It would explain why human kind has had the belief of a God.

This means for 200,000 to 300,000 years people will kill other people in the name of their God. Any transcendental high can be attributed to this human experience. That means a ‘runners high.’ In sports getting in the ‘zone.’

Sex, vicariously experienced emotion whenever large crowds gather.

Whether it is professional wrestling or fan behavior cheering their team on.

It in an addition would mean the congregation of a church singing hymns.

Getting married end experiencing marital bliss also.

Both saying a God exists and as well there is not any God are called a cognitive distortion ‘Emotional Reasoning.’

One can not prove nor disprove their is a God. The burden of proof though is on those making this claim.

I am quite the spiritual being on a path of self actualization. I take the best wisdoms of a religion or secular verse. I do not believe any particular religion 100%.

I agree and truly advocate a Buddha approach. Each most walk the path. Accept nothing not even if it is from me said Buddha.
 

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I dont really understand what or why you are saying what you say.

Surely we can define God in many ways and many of those ways are wrong definitions. And if using wrong definitions, well ofc its not true if using that wrong definition. Like who decided that Hole Spirit is something going on in the brains? No texts claims this, this is just some assumption of some outsider who doesent understand what they are talking about. i dont think the major religions have good definitions of the subject either, or well Buddhism comes closest imo, especially some more esoteric Buddhist sects.

I used to be a hard core atheist until like 23 or so. While i cant give you 100% accurate definition of God (i dont think human language can give that definition), i would nowadays argue that there is God and all sorts of other things we cant understand only through scientific methods. Of i have to give some definition of God, i would say that its the source of where everything came, and also All that came from it.

You can ask me some more clearer questions if you want, and i try to remember check back if you responded (i havent been here in long time and might forget again).
 
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“The Holy Spirit is not an aspect of God but rather a human phenomena that is created by our own brain neurochemistry. It would explain why human kind has had the belief of a God.
This is what I think.

I assume you don't literally mean just the Holy Spirit, but also concepts from other traditions as well as more personal understandings people might have that take their own shape.

Other people might argue that the Holy Spirit, etc. is actually a perception of something with objective existence. These people have a keener "sight" so to speak, according to this way of thinking. In this respect, people like this would be analogous to tetrachromats.

I don't agree with that. My experience doesn't really line up with the existence of a benevolent god or entity. Good things happen to bad people, and bad things happen to good people, and that's just the way it is. Some people have incredibly easy lives, and some people have a lot of shit heaped upon them, and some people have even more shit than that heaped upon them. Occam's razor does away with the need for a complex theology to explain theodicy.

Finally, for what motivated me to make this post, after initially backing out:

Religion makes many people believe and do some crazy things, often providing (along with other kinds of propaganda) "moral" justifications for terrible behavior.
 

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“(1). I really do feel that supernatural beliefs are akin to a computer virus that afflicts mankind.

I have watched documentaries that have shown that the human species is genetically hardwired to have supernatural ideations.

Therefore if you do believe in some supernatural ideation, you wouldn’t know that it is fact your own brain fooling you.

The human brain is trying to make sense of the great mystery of the unknowable that we all live in.

(2). To me those religions which have supernatural elements are a Bronze Age hypothesis trying to bring order in a incomprehensible world.

(3). I don’t know why we have evolved to be a species that is led primarily by emotion and not by human reason.

I am fortunate that I have a background in psychology. Thus I am fully aware of the cognitive distortion called ‘Emotional Reasoning.’

To me of all of the cognitive distortions, this one is one of the most nefarious.

This single distortion in a human beings unconscious has led to much of the misery that has plagued the human species throughout history.

This is how I describe Emotional Reasoning.

“Just because I passionately think, feel and believe in something does not necessitate that it is true.

Not unless it is proven by hard science research methodology in the here and now. Then those results must be replicated.”

Otherwise it is merely your own opinion which has not been unsubstantiated by science. It is a belief with no scientific validity.

It is however in a person’s unconscious belief system which is then unfairly projected unto others.

(4). What I do know that it is fruitless endeavor to insult another in their personal belief system.

What I can’t stand are theists who disparage non-theists and vice versa. Unfortunately people have not been educated in various psychology principles.

(5). The following are both examples of the cognitive distortion called Emotional Reasoning.

1. There is a God.

2. There is no such thing as God.

Both are distortions in the sense that one can not prove nor disprove the concept of God.

However the burden of proof is on those who are making the claim. The general population don’t know that to try and shove your own beliefs down another person’s through is rude.

In addition it is the human Ego of a person who is not grounded.

(6). For a person who is psychologically, emotionally and spiritually mature and secure in their own selves,

they have no interest in insulting other human beings who have a different belief system.

(7.A). A person has two choices in life. I’ve written, “I don’t care what you believe or not believe. As long as you wish to help make this a better world.

Let’s focus on our similarities and not our differences and together help make this a better world. Not only for ourselves but for our children in future generations.

(7.B.) Or else put down all those others who think, feel, act and believe differently than you do.

Do you know how egotistical, intolerant, dogmatic, and closed minded you are if you blindly follow this path?

(8). For those who follow the latter, they will find at the end of their lived that they will have only fruitlessly wasted their own time, energy and life force.

Those who attack others with insults, and put downs you will have been guided throughout your life by hate, fear, stereotypes, prejudices, and have been brainwashed with propaganda.” LightSun
 

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