Eric B
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Been realizing more and more the connection of the "Demonic Personality" archetype/complex and "inner objects" (and the "anima", associated with the inferior function deals in inner "object"-relations), especially in light of Beebe's mention in his book that the complex is in particular, "pathologically narcissistic", and seeks "integrity" (and in the wrong way). I've come to see how this plays out in my own psyche. My father (who was rather abusive at times, especially when I was having trouble adapting to the world, and he thought I needed sharp "motivational" rhetoric, so there was a lot of "truth" about "life", but no emotional support) became the main basis of this "object" for me. I come to hear this voice telling me I'm doing wrong (Fi), and project it onto people in positions who talk authoritatively. I look to the world through the inferior (Fe), and this "object" constantly attacks this, making the ego feel gravely threatened at its core.
So I took this, and extended it the other judgment functions easily, but found it a bit more difficult to do the perception functions. As a judgment dominant type (where the whole "spine" or 1-4-5-8 functions) are about determining "right/wrong", I by experience don't really know what it's like to have a dominant ego perspective (and thus, spine) that lives to only take in information. I figure if the "Rational" daemonic "object" makes you "wrong" (challenges what's "right" regarding you), then the irrational one challenges what "is" regarding you, somehow.
So can anyone else identify with this? You would look for the inner "voice" that is always trying to "undermine" ego's dominant goal, through the opposite function in the same attitude as the dominant.
“Demonic†judgment devalues the ego (makes it “wrongâ€)
Fi “demon†object says you are internally a bad person (especially for your internal logical conclusions). You fight it through moral narcissism (e.g. self justification) and trying to “take down†others' moral stances.
Ti “demon†object tells you you are stupid (especially for your internal feelings). You fight it through intellectual narcissism, and sometimes trying to take down others intellectually.
Fe “demon†object tells you no one appreciates you (for your logical ordering). You fight it through social narcissism, and try to take down others socially
Te “demon†object tells you you are inefficient (particularly at serving others). You fight it by through organizational narcissism, and try to take down others' organization.
“Demonic†perception [negates the ego's {presence; knowledge; awareness; ability}? Makes it insignificant?]
Se “demon" object observes your ineptitude in the current situation? You fight it by narcissistically trying to prove your ability, often in a rash fashion
Ni “demon†object observes negative “big picturesâ€. You fight it through narcissistically claiming to know what will happen in the future.
Si “demon†object observes negative past experience. You fight it through narcissistically denying the reality of your role in situations or manufacturing alternate histories
Ne “demon†object observes negative hypothetical possibilities [in which you are extremely limited?]. You fight it through narcissistically taking wild chances [even apart from your normal sensory focus which knows when something is truly possible; i.e “do-able†in the current moment].
So I took this, and extended it the other judgment functions easily, but found it a bit more difficult to do the perception functions. As a judgment dominant type (where the whole "spine" or 1-4-5-8 functions) are about determining "right/wrong", I by experience don't really know what it's like to have a dominant ego perspective (and thus, spine) that lives to only take in information. I figure if the "Rational" daemonic "object" makes you "wrong" (challenges what's "right" regarding you), then the irrational one challenges what "is" regarding you, somehow.
So can anyone else identify with this? You would look for the inner "voice" that is always trying to "undermine" ego's dominant goal, through the opposite function in the same attitude as the dominant.
“Demonic†judgment devalues the ego (makes it “wrongâ€)
Fi “demon†object says you are internally a bad person (especially for your internal logical conclusions). You fight it through moral narcissism (e.g. self justification) and trying to “take down†others' moral stances.
Ti “demon†object tells you you are stupid (especially for your internal feelings). You fight it through intellectual narcissism, and sometimes trying to take down others intellectually.
Fe “demon†object tells you no one appreciates you (for your logical ordering). You fight it through social narcissism, and try to take down others socially
Te “demon†object tells you you are inefficient (particularly at serving others). You fight it by through organizational narcissism, and try to take down others' organization.
“Demonic†perception [negates the ego's {presence; knowledge; awareness; ability}? Makes it insignificant?]
Se “demon" object observes your ineptitude in the current situation? You fight it by narcissistically trying to prove your ability, often in a rash fashion
Ni “demon†object observes negative “big picturesâ€. You fight it through narcissistically claiming to know what will happen in the future.
Si “demon†object observes negative past experience. You fight it through narcissistically denying the reality of your role in situations or manufacturing alternate histories
Ne “demon†object observes negative hypothetical possibilities [in which you are extremely limited?]. You fight it through narcissistically taking wild chances [even apart from your normal sensory focus which knows when something is truly possible; i.e “do-able†in the current moment].