GavinElster
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If I had to answer, though, some version of socionics ILE-Ne really seems to get it right.
OrangeAppled said:Enneagram, as 4w5 better explains why I test as INxP without my overly complicated take on Fi.
I think the gist is that the first two letters IN roughly relate to a lot of Jung's introversion, and so do many enneagram portrayals of 4 and 5 (orientation to mind over the external, inner life, separation/isolation from the external and so forth). Tack on that Jung conceived of "Fi" as just the typical ego-consciousness of an introvert who happens to also be a feeling type (not a discrete 1/8 called Fi as we do nowadays) and the X would probably lean to F, in parallel to 4's (usually) leaning in that direction too.
Obviously one can complicate things a lot more than that, state a billion exceptions and other angles, but while we're stating things without the overly complicated...I think we can do it with Jung and not just enneagram! Meaning, I think one can be simple about Fi and still arrive at a similar place (even if not being simple is fun, too).
Myers' test frames F in a way that includes a lot of stuff that doesn't have to go with Jungian F, since value judgments don't have to be tender or compassionate, quite the opposite sometimes, so if the X varies a little, that's still pretty obviously consistent with a non-overly complex take on Jungian Fi.
OrangeAppled said:but they're not dichotomous.
But I recognize myself in Fi only so much as it is defined as rational and focused on creating and exploring concepts of value (ie meaning in the human experience), not as holding emotionally driven values.
since value judgments don't have to be tender or compassionate, quite the opposite sometimes,
No psychology shit actually describes me perfectly
Oldham typology? That's new to me.. XD well, enneagram i can relate to it as well but not fully. But it's better than mbti [emoji14] mbti doesn't really fits me xDI agree that the Enneagram is great at describing people, including me. But I voted against it because in my view the best system for describing me is the Oldham typology.
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I don't see anything in the thread topic about having a perfect fit, do you?
Oldham typology? That's new to me.. XD well, enneagram i can relate to it as well but not fully. But it's better than mbti [emoji14] mbti doesn't really fits me xD
I'm gonna check oldham typology![]()