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Yeah ENFJ sounds good. I could relate to it on a fundamental level. I don't relate to the "horrible people" thing though more ambivalence or neutrality.
I don't believe people are limited to a single type, but that their personality traits are spread across a spectrum. So my best guess is that she is 1. ENFJ, 2. INFJ, 3. INFP, in order of strength. The fact that she is conflicted over type should tell you that some other type comes in a close second. So while the consensus says ENFJ, I wouldn't rule out the idea that some other type is almost as predominant.
That makes sense. Like in the subtype system I've looked at, by functions tests, my subtype would be ENFJ after ISFP.
In terms of four letter dichotomies I am borderline on E/I most of all, and then on N/S.
Why do you think ENFJ is her main type if she says she doesn't like initiating conversations and hates some people, yet likes to interact and finds it rude when people are bad conversationalists?
I don't split them like that because the MBTI borrowed bits and pieces from Jung, and then added on J and P.
That makes sense. Like in the subtype system I've looked at, by functions tests, my subtype would be ENFJ after ISFP.
In terms of four letter dichotomies I am borderline on E/I most of all, and then on N/S.
Why do you think ENFJ is her main type if she says she doesn't like initiating conversations and hates some people, yet likes to interact and finds it rude when people are bad conversationalists?
That makes sense. Like in the subtype system I've looked at, by functions tests, my subtype would be ENFJ after ISFP.
I can take a whole watermelon and describe it as it is.
I can then take a whole watermelon, cut it in half, and describe each half of the watermelon as if they were separate; however, to do so destroys the concept of the whole watermelon. In other words, whether you see JCF and MBTI as mutually exclusive is how you choose to look at it and not necessarily objectively true, as there can also be truth in them being mutually inclusive.
One thing that keeps me from believing that I'm an ENFJ with certainty is that I have been described as awkward many times yet ENFJs are described as being charismatic or charming. I don't think I'm either of those. The letters seem to fit me but the descriptions just don't seem me. :/
Using that method, Adela comes out as Ni-dom.
Believe me, EXFJs can be quite awkward. It may be because they are so overly concerned/fixated with social rules/norms (Fe) that it might paralyse them on what the right thing is to say or do. One of the most hated people I know is probably ESFJ because she has a crappy handle of how to deal with people and is delusional but is concerned with social rules/norms. Fe doms may know the social rules/norms quite well but that doesn't mean that they are efficient in using them.One thing that keeps me from believing that I'm an ENFJ with certainty is that I have been described as awkward many times yet ENFJs are described as being charismatic or charming. I don't think I'm either of those. The letters seem to fit me but the descriptions just don't seem me. :/
Believe me, EXFJs can be quite awkward. It may be because they are so overly concerned/fixated with social rules/norms (Fe) that it might paralyse them on what the right thing is to say or do. One of the most hated people I know is probably ESFJ because she has a crappy handle of how to deal with people and is delusional but is concerned with social rules/norms. Fe doms may know the social rules/norms quite well but that doesn't mean that they are efficient in using them.
Believe me, EXFJs can be quite awkward. It may be because they are so overly concerned/fixated with social rules/norms (Fe) that it might paralyse them on what the right thing is to say or do. One of the most hated people I know is probably ESFJ because she has a crappy handle of how to deal with people and is delusional but is concerned with social rules/norms. Fe doms may know the social rules/norms quite well but that doesn't mean that they are efficient in using them.
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basically you take the functions test. My highest function is Fi. Ive gotten Fi Ni, Fi Ne, Fi Se, and Fi Si. But my Fi is insanely high, k.
My lowest function is always Ti. My second lowest is Te.
This pretty well establishes that I am an F dom, and then obviously and Fi dom.
On my most recent tests my function order has been Fi, Se, Ni, Fe.
Since my second highest judging function is Fe and my T functions are so low, my secondary type would be FJ, and most likely ExFJ (F dom) since my Ti is lowest.
Considering the strength of my Se, ENFJ also seems most plausible.
Interestingly some people on this site have suggested NFJ for me. But my Fe is too crappy for that, Im obviously Fi.
However it makes sense ENFJ would be my secondary type.
This would explain by REAL function order why some ISFPs are more like ISTPs or ISFJs, and some are more like NFs.
Well you could still as easily be ENFJ though. It's not limited to ESFJ. ENFJs just seem more idealist in their delusions.This is a good insight into Fe. One which ive thought about myself from time to time.
That ESFJ you know sounds exactly like me.
Doesn't the function test result automatically provide you with these alternative choices?
Ah, that's pretty interesting. The thing is I'm actually unaware of some social rules/norms and I'm oblivious to how I come off. But thanks for telling me that.
Doesn't the function test result automatically provide you with these alternative choices?