Dyslexxie
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Haha it's okay, that's my issue with ESTP versus ENTP for myself, and they're not even similar. Self-perception is so inaccurate.[MENTION=26046]Dyslexxie[/MENTION]
I've actually read that very same article probably about five times in the past. I've also watched all of EJ ARENDEE 's YouTube videos on the subject of INTP vs INTJ and others. They always tend to say one thing about INTP's where my response is "Oh, that sounds just like me." But then they'll say something about INTJ and I'll think "Oh, that... also sounds just like me." Ultimately it's gotten me nowhere of course except stirred up more of my own confusion.
I absolutely am organized externally, though. But then there's the question of whether I'm organized because I am naturally that way, or because I know that if I'm not, I could end up in bad situations. In my younger years especially, though, I was highly competitive in the sense of feeling my own achievements made me superior to others around me who clearly didn't apply or structure themselves. I do not think that feeling in particular was instilled into me by anything other than nature, so perhaps that slides the scale more towards the J side. Though, I've heard that a feeling of superiority, even arrogance, is common among both INTPs and INTJs prior to adequate maturation.
It's even harder for introverts because your first extraverted function is an auxiliary function instead of dominant, so IxxPs’ dominant mode of functioning is Judging (Fi and Ti) and IJs’ is Perceiving (Si and Ni) - it's all backwards.
IxxPs often function with the need for objectiveness and needing to 'finalize' and pindown their thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc. They're excellent about setting things in motion because of their focused Fi/Ti, but then the chaotic Ne/Se sets in and they can get sidetracked like us ExxPs, which makes them feel frustrated and cause them to become rigid and chaotic, until they're able to return back to a point of control.
IxxJs can also appear organized and have a need to control their environment, but their inner mode of operation is through perceiving (Ni/Si) so their mental process is a lot more subjective and open than it would be for an IxxP. They tend to value quality over quantity and can get easily caught up in loops of perfectionism where they can't move on from a task because they want it to be juuuuuust right, but they're able to more easily let go than IxxPs and start over.
INTPs come off as more relaxed externally than INTJs, but internally they're huge control freaks, while it's the opposite with INTJs. Both are really organized regardless, but INTJs can let go a little better I find. My INTJ friend can handle being wrong much better than my INTP dad, that's for sure. If my friend realizes he's wrong he'll feel embarrassed but he'll accept it and just end up reading more to correct his knowledge and come back dorkier than ever, while my dad will get angry and irrational until he can adjust his information - probably because his inner control freak feels compromised lol.