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^+1, I was like that when young too. My little niece is the same.
I wasn't exactly termed as gifted until I was around twenty three...which
was confirmed when I was about twenty six. Especially the long term me-
mory, perceptiveness and ability to retain information. I stunk in math to
say the least but was advanced in vocabulary and reading and was told I
was a natural for things like musical instruments, singing and acting and
even though there were foreign languages I concentrated on specifically I
had the abilities to teach myself things about other ones researching orig-
ins and looking for the 'latin roots' and noticing how even though they we-
re different forms of words could be traced from one language to the oth-
er, but I couldn't be termed as autistic/aspergers which i was a little wat-
ched for because I had the social skills and seemed uninhibited in approa-
ching new people and getting to know them easily and had a few close fr-
ends of my own age so i left a few aptitude testers scratching their heads
as to what to do with me. I didn't get in much trouble but I was still se-
en as trouble by people in positions of authority sometimes because I had
an independent streak and could ignore any clique that was pressuring
me to go along with what they wanted someone they knew to hear since
I had a lot of friends who were termed nerds/brains/uncool etc but i still
had friends that were head cheerleaders or guys who were known for their
athletic abilities in the school days and have friends who are partiers or
work in clothing stores that you can have fashion chats with so I was seen
as a threat to the 'social order' or set standards of ways for doing things
because I didn't wait until something got back to me to make up my own mind
Gifted Adults
Characteristics of Gifted Adults
perfectionistic and sets high standards for self and others
has strong moral convictions
is highly sensitive, perceptive or insightful
fascinated by words or an avid reader
feels out-of-sync with others
is very curious
has an unusual sense of humour
a good problem solver
has a vivid and rich imagination
questions rules or authority
has unusual ideas or connects seemingly unrelated ideas
thrives on challenge
learns new things rapidly
has a good long-term memory
feels overwhelmed by many interests and abilities
is very compassionate
feels outrage at moral breaches that the rest of the world seems to take for granted
has passionate, intense feelings
has a great deal of energy
can't switch off thinking
feels driven by creativity
loves ideas and ardent discussion
needs periods of contemplation
searches for ???? in their life
feels a sense of alienation and loneliness
is very perceptive
feels out of step with others
Not the best link.......actually all my links are making a liar out of me....but in my previous research independence of thought was a defining characteristic of a gifted person.
I have trouble with the concept too....I only found out I was gifted on the last day of high school. I hadn't been through any special programmes or anything, and I just forgot about it. A friend brought up the possibility last year again when she dropped a paper off about gifted adult experiences, with the words "If you tell me none of this reminds you of you, I'll kick you".
I'm an ESFJ with an IQ estimated in the 150s. How alienated do you think I felt in school? I was too smart and bored to enjoy the regimentation, but I didn't relate to the few other gifted students, either.
Yeah, but some of us are in that <1%. Small numbers of people still count.
Ok, I appear to be a gifted adult. This pretty much describes me and I was in accelerated and honors classes all through school, even when I started slacking in high school, I still made a perfect score on the AP lit exam.
I would love to be a teacher. I would love to be the kind of teacher that I wish I had. I did have some good teachers, and a couple of great teachers. The problem isn't really the teachers it's THE SYSTEM.
The System isn't getting better, either, it's getting worse. It's as though they're trying to make things even more regimented and structured than it was before. "No Child Left Behind" is a crock of steaming shit that is pushing what creativity was left in the classroom right out of the window. Everything is centered around standardized testing now.
There are some improvements being made in learning, though. Many of you probably don't even know how many flaming hoops of fire a person has to go through to even become a teacher these days. About 800 clock hours of in-school observation spread out over semesters, not just one semester of student teaching as in the olden days. There are also vast improvements being made in the way that concepts are taught by interdisciplinary thematic units and utilizing reader-response theory in the classroom instead of forcing old-fashioned efferent learning down kids' throats.
I would love to be a teacher. I would love to bring creativity into the classroom. I'm terrified to teach middle or high school because although that was my original goal, I have since learned that elementary school seems to be the last bastion of the tiniest squeak of creativity in the public school system. I very well could become a teacher - I have the grades and the interest. What I don't have patience for is the regimented bullshit that keeps some very good teachers from being the teachers that they actually want to be.
I think that's why there's a teacher shortage: most people don't want to do it, and even the intelligent people who passionately do want to do it are getting scared away by the present state of The System.
It cannot be improved.So over in the NT'S Opinion on school thread, it seemed almost unanimous that school is more geared towards SJs.
Do you agree with this?
Now it's obvious that SJs are drawn to these kinds of societal institutions, school seems to be made by and for SJs. Why do we allow this dominance?
Do you feel that the other temperaments could be better served by education? Focusing on their strengths? Is the potential of the other temperaments being fulfilled or is the time spent at these kinds of school being wasted and actually holding them back?
How could school have better suited your learning style? Did school prepare you for later life as well as you would have liked?
How do you think it could be improved to make the most of each type's potential?
I wasn't really part of any clique - not the jocks, not the cheerleaders, not the student gov folks, not the intelligent folks, not the punkers or rockers, not the dumbasses who slept all day, not the slackers, the sports fanatics, or the QUESTION AUTHORITY anarchists, not the wackos or the mentally ill, not the loners, not the geeks or freaks, NO ONE.
LOL What does that make me???
It cannot be improved.
It is not about who is in the right.
It is about the public.
A measure does not matter.Thanks for creating/continuing with this thread. Although I can't really comment on it (being an SJ myself, and one who never really had trouble with learning), I can say that it reveals a huge problem that others may not have noticed before.
Excellent work.