Godspeed you! black emperor are closer by far to the original idea than, say, Green Day.
Agreed. They are successors to a throne that never quite was - punk died before it was born.
Godspeed you! black emperor are closer by far to the original idea than, say, Green Day.
Johnny's okay, but here in the UK he advertises butter. Iggy's even worse - he's doing car insurance.
Definitely. Pop-punk should have never came to be a genre. Maybe a novelty album or two could have been dedicated to it.
But isn't that just a judgment based on categorization and not on the music? Like, if I countered that Green Day was power pop, would you change your opinion on them? I enjoy them a lot, but never had any illusion that they were punk. I don't think they do, either. The sound may be approximately the same, but the approach is not at all.
But they call themselves punk, FM. Does that count for anything? Who else IYO would be "power pop", just for clarity?
I class Green Day as GenY-punk or neo punk.
To me, post punk is like Jesus and the Mary Chain or the Furs.
Hmmm. I'm wary of using any of those terms. They're all vague and they overlap. Left to my own device, I'd just classify them as "awesome". I only used power pop as an example to demonstrate how categories affect opinions. Like, if I gave you a chocolate cookie and told you it was a brownie, you'd say "this is a terrible brownie, it's hard and crunchy!" But if I told you it was a cookie you'd likely say "this is delicious!" On its own merit, the cookie is delicious, but it all depends on what your expectations are.
What I was trying to get at is whether the other posters expected Green Day to be a brownie when they're a cookie, and whether that affected their opinion.
This is turning into an interesting discussion!
The New Fury
They’ve got themselves a new spin
on the story, twisted for one-sided glory. Devastation soon
becoming fuel for the masses new fury. A greedy hand in
the guise of a good man. So threatening. So deafening.
So silencing, that familiar stance. The burden now passed
to us, we lose our footing but still try to stand.
No control.
No more rules.
“Perpetual war for perpetual peace”, turn a
blind eye to poverty while manufacturing new enemies. The
new slave’s south of the border, murdered or overseas. We
still struggle with the fact that one percent has ninety-nine
on their knees. Washington’s drawing up war plans, while
there’s still no hope for the homeless man. No one should
have to live under these men, iron fists with gun in hand.
No more control.
No more rules.
They try to make you
and me live life by their design: No free thought. No free
speech. No peace of mind. They make a move to confine.
But they’ll never silence me as long as I can Breathe!
But they call themselves punk, FM. Does that count for anything? Who else IYO would be "power pop", just for clarity?
I class Green Day as GenY-punk or neo punk.
To me, post punk is like Jesus and the Mary Chain or the Furs.
Definitely. Pop-punk should have never came to be a genre. Maybe a novelty album or two could have been dedicated to it.