TenebrousReflection
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- Joined
- Sep 30, 2007
- Messages
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- MBTI Type
- INFp
- Enneagram
- 4w5
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/sp
I've been away from the boards for quite a while and for the most part things have been going well, and I've had lots of stuff to keep me occupied and busy, but recently I've been digging into the Enneagram again and find that I'm still uncertain about my Enneagram type and I've always had the tendeceny to second guess my MBTI decision from time to time as well, so this time I decided to come up with a list of self description traits and see what others might make of it...
For whatever its worth, my previous conclusions were INfp 4w5, but 5w4, 9w1 and 1w9 as well as INTP, and INFJ are all types I see aspects my myself in.
So, here is the big list of traits - thanks in advance for oppinions and insights.
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Desire to understand myself
Desire for others to understand me
Desire to understand others (motivations and values)
Desire to help others understand themselves
Desire to help others understand their friends and family
Desire to help others reach their potential (once they better understand themselves)
I enjoy conversations that require some thought.
I strongly dislike meaningless chit chat, but I still try to view it as an opportunity to learn more about others.
I have a horrible memory with most numbers and random facts, but I have an above average memory when it comes to things others have told me about their history and interests. If I can apply meaning/significance to a fact, I can usually remember it, but things like phone numbers and seldom used rules/procedures are extremely difficult to remember - even with my favorite movies and TV shows, I'm horrible with trivia.
Desire to understand why (either motivation, or the chain of events leading to something)
Desire to understand the significance of things (search for symbolism and patterns)
Desire to understand how things work
When my mind is not yet decided and I don't have an emotional attachment to something, I tend to do a lot of research and seek the opinions from multiple view points and even once I have an initial evaluation, I tend to keep an open mind to most things. Assuming I don't have an emotional investment in an idea, I enjoy playing devils advocate and seeing how far I can get someone to argue the other side of something (Stephen Colbert is a good example there).
Once I have made a decision about something, it is very hard to change my mind - most opinions I have are on subjective things (politics, ethics, morals, the value of social norms, opperatign system superiority/inferiority etc) that can not be proven or disproven. Most of those are the result of contemplation and weighed against my internal sense of right and wrong, but some are just an intuitive evaluations (first impressions). I do not ignore facts, but on most things that really matter to me, facts are like weights to add to one side of the scales rather than something to base a decision entirely on.
I seldom display emotions, but I am usually aware of what I am feeling and often have strong emotional reactions to things. Sentimental, nostalgic and melancholic are words I feel often describe me.
I can be very absent minded and a bit flakey at times.
I have an appreciation for dark and/or sad music, cinema and art.
Sorrow and regret have fueled my creativity in the past, and I see those as a natural parts of life and something that can give strength and motivation once they are accepted into ones self. I have heard of this process compared to choosing to embrace the dragon rather than trying to slay the dragon and that seems like how I view it.
I sometimes see myself as a detached catalyst.
- I like to throw out an idea and watch others discuss it, but once I've put the idea out there, I prefer to stand back and observe - I will interact ocasionaly, and answer questions directed at me, but watching how others interact with each other and hearing different points of view is usually what interests me.
Need for accuracy at a subconscious level - especially with words.
- I often will write soemthing and then agonize over my word choice if It does not feel right. Oddly (or perhaps not), spelling is not much of an issue to me.
I like to analyze things and see what changing variables does.
I ask "what if" questions frequently.
I enjoy finding non traditional uses for things.
I enjoy strategic and role playing games.
I enjoy science fiction and fantasy books, movies and television.
I enjoy a wide variety of music (metal, folk, gothic, darkwave, nerdcore, and neo-classical)
I find myself naturally drawn toward historyand social sciences.
There are aspects of self that are so subconscious that we forget they exist until others point them out for us, so I'm probably forgetting a lot of things about myself that are important parts of who I am, but I think the content in the above list is the majority of the things that make me question my type from time to time.
For whatever its worth, my previous conclusions were INfp 4w5, but 5w4, 9w1 and 1w9 as well as INTP, and INFJ are all types I see aspects my myself in.
So, here is the big list of traits - thanks in advance for oppinions and insights.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Desire to understand myself
Desire for others to understand me
Desire to understand others (motivations and values)
Desire to help others understand themselves
Desire to help others understand their friends and family
Desire to help others reach their potential (once they better understand themselves)
I enjoy conversations that require some thought.
I strongly dislike meaningless chit chat, but I still try to view it as an opportunity to learn more about others.
I have a horrible memory with most numbers and random facts, but I have an above average memory when it comes to things others have told me about their history and interests. If I can apply meaning/significance to a fact, I can usually remember it, but things like phone numbers and seldom used rules/procedures are extremely difficult to remember - even with my favorite movies and TV shows, I'm horrible with trivia.
Desire to understand why (either motivation, or the chain of events leading to something)
Desire to understand the significance of things (search for symbolism and patterns)
Desire to understand how things work
When my mind is not yet decided and I don't have an emotional attachment to something, I tend to do a lot of research and seek the opinions from multiple view points and even once I have an initial evaluation, I tend to keep an open mind to most things. Assuming I don't have an emotional investment in an idea, I enjoy playing devils advocate and seeing how far I can get someone to argue the other side of something (Stephen Colbert is a good example there).
Once I have made a decision about something, it is very hard to change my mind - most opinions I have are on subjective things (politics, ethics, morals, the value of social norms, opperatign system superiority/inferiority etc) that can not be proven or disproven. Most of those are the result of contemplation and weighed against my internal sense of right and wrong, but some are just an intuitive evaluations (first impressions). I do not ignore facts, but on most things that really matter to me, facts are like weights to add to one side of the scales rather than something to base a decision entirely on.
I seldom display emotions, but I am usually aware of what I am feeling and often have strong emotional reactions to things. Sentimental, nostalgic and melancholic are words I feel often describe me.
I can be very absent minded and a bit flakey at times.
I have an appreciation for dark and/or sad music, cinema and art.
Sorrow and regret have fueled my creativity in the past, and I see those as a natural parts of life and something that can give strength and motivation once they are accepted into ones self. I have heard of this process compared to choosing to embrace the dragon rather than trying to slay the dragon and that seems like how I view it.
I sometimes see myself as a detached catalyst.
- I like to throw out an idea and watch others discuss it, but once I've put the idea out there, I prefer to stand back and observe - I will interact ocasionaly, and answer questions directed at me, but watching how others interact with each other and hearing different points of view is usually what interests me.
Need for accuracy at a subconscious level - especially with words.
- I often will write soemthing and then agonize over my word choice if It does not feel right. Oddly (or perhaps not), spelling is not much of an issue to me.
I like to analyze things and see what changing variables does.
I ask "what if" questions frequently.
I enjoy finding non traditional uses for things.
I enjoy strategic and role playing games.
I enjoy science fiction and fantasy books, movies and television.
I enjoy a wide variety of music (metal, folk, gothic, darkwave, nerdcore, and neo-classical)
I find myself naturally drawn toward historyand social sciences.
There are aspects of self that are so subconscious that we forget they exist until others point them out for us, so I'm probably forgetting a lot of things about myself that are important parts of who I am, but I think the content in the above list is the majority of the things that make me question my type from time to time.