Are you asking me to prove to you God exists? Do I look like God? Anyway, faith doesn't work like that, LOL! Just like life, death to self is a personal journey. I can't do it for you.
Why doesn't god prove he exists? He ran around promoting his image god knows how many years ago. SO why not now?
I ask you for logical proof because I wish to see your logical reasoning for god.
Also, I did read the posts. All 14 pages (as of yesterday).
Challenge me and see; everyone is doing it. Changed? I've been crucified with Christ. I am at the point of no return.
So you are flexible in your belief, but you won't stop believing if presented with evidence that the bible is a crock of?
Does flexible merely mean you are ready to change your exact opinion on god, but you will maintain, no matter what, that he exists?
I am not sure (and again, I read your posts) what you mean by you are certain in your belief of god, but you are flexible. Someone clarified this (an assumption you appeared to deem correct) and you were certain at that moment in time in god. However, presented with further evidence, your opinion is subject to change. Yes? Because it sounds like you are maintaining the rather illogical position of saying 'God is real and no matter what evidence I have, I won't refute it"
That's a reasonable sentiment regarding those who lack knowledge and understanding of spiritual things.
How is it logical to assert god exists?
What information am I lacking?
I have been relentless in my answers in these realms. I am probably more spiritual than you are religious.
lol, are you ranting? if you're wanting me to agree with you on all of this, I can't because you apparently zoned out during most of the discussion. It sounds like you just barely skimmed our posts.
I read them all. I don't care if you agree or not. In fact, I want you to disagree, and tell me (with logic) how you know god exists.
I read all the posts. It doesn't take a genius to see the misused vocabulary. And yes, I am ranting. I'm an ENTP. It comes with the name tag.
You'll have to ask the guy that believes in Zeus.
I'm unsure of how that determines the validity of Zeus. My point is, nowadays, if someone asserts Zeus is real, people will look at them like they are nuts. Saying "I feel his presence" is not an argument.
I am saying to break it down, not to tell me it is rational for no reason.
Why are you telling me that? I can't relate and don't recall that in this thread.
I'm saying that you are not right on the grounds of you
feeling something.
My point is, a lot of people feel things very strongly, and they are not necessarily correct in their feelings.
Evan asked about it. I don't recall anybody soley justifying their faith based on feelings or what is right. Where in the world did you get that from?
I recall you saying you have felt god's presence, and know it is correct because you can sense it.
Points
- How is the bible logical?
- Which bible do you read?
- Do you believe the bible is irrefutable fact or a series of parables or a combination?
- How does feeling something justify it as fact?
- Jung is not the ultimate authority on everything
- Do you think everyone who asserts god does not exist is lacking in spiritual knowledge?
- Please clarify, again, in your own words, how you are flexible in your belief about god. Especially in light of the fact that you said no information will change your belief in god.