Cold war 2.0

[The Cat]

The idea of living off by myself in a stretch of relative wilderness somewhere (as in that video you posted) is something I've found appealing for a long time. The issue of requiring modern medicine is a significant hurdle to overcome, though. I also no longer think the idea of living by myself is appealing; my vulnerabilities as a social animal is also now apparent.

The biggest hurdle to that kind of lifestyle is that land is perhaps no longer cheap anywhere (I would guess), except for maybe Alaska. I love the cold, but maybe not that much.

Depends on what you're looking for. What youre willing to learn before you set out to do it.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Depends on what you're looking for. What youre willing to learn before you set out to do it.

What do you mean?

 

[The Cat]

What do you mean?

The green in Illinois is gonna be different than the green georgia vs the green in alaska, or japan, or wherever in the world you go. But the more you can learn before you go, the more you'll know of how to get closer to what you're seeking. For example a year of serious gardening experience could open you a slot in that guy's business. A certificiation in herbology even more on top of it. There's another one I havent posted yet of a young dude who lives off the grid, hes not amish, but he lives like he is.

Now I like you will likely never be able to get too far away from modern medicine, but being an eco farmer in rural Appalachia holds a lot of appeal for me. But there's wilderness medical training, i want to get certified in, and im always looking to improve my bushcraft skills. An electrical certification would serve me well I think, really I just enjoy being handy. The more technically useful you are the more options you have in survival.

 

[The Cat]

good craftsmanship is indistinguishable from fine art because they are the same thing.

 

[SensEye]

US launches Red Sea force against attacks by Yemen's Houthis

Sudan: 300,000 flee as RSF advance on key city and aid hub

Kim Jong Un warns US after North Korea ICBM test

Erdogan and Orban pledge closer ties in Budapest meeting

Ukraine updates: UN accuses Russia of 'gross violations'

Time for Ukraine to work with the Russian opposition

Israel-Hamas war: UN Security Council delays Gaza vote

Putin could attack Baltics and Moldova next, says Belgian army chief



Slow motion WW3.

Hoping things settle down next year but who knows? Strong leadership from the west is required, but with the US a house divided and the EU somewhat chronically unaligned, there is no sign of such leadership on the horizon. It's not going to come from Biden or Trump.

The Israel situation should calm down in a month or two as, so far, no other Arab nations have gotten too involved. The Ukraine thing will drag on for a least a year, then if the Dems can win in 2024 maybe they will get back to full support of Ukraine and they can kick the Russians out, which should end Russian aggression. If Trump wins, I suspect Putin will continue his expansionism.

China may plan to take a run at Taiwan as well. That would open a new can of worms.

 

[Virtual ghost]

The green in Illinois is gonna be different than the green georgia vs the green in alaska, or japan, or wherever in the world you go. But the more you can learn before you go, the more you'll know of how to get closer to what you're seeking. For example a year of serious gardening experience could open you a slot in that guy's business. A certificiation in herbology even more on top of it. There's another one I havent posted yet of a young dude who lives off the grid, hes not amish, but he lives like he is.

Now I like you will likely never be able to get too far away from modern medicine, but being an eco farmer in rural Appalachia holds a lot of appeal for me. But there's wilderness medical training, i want to get certified in, and im always looking to improve my bushcraft skills. An electrical certification would serve me well I think, really I just enjoy being handy. The more technically useful you are the more options you have in survival.

The idea of living off by myself in a stretch of relative wilderness somewhere (as in that video you posted) is something I've found appealing for a long time. The issue of requiring modern medicine is a significant hurdle to overcome, though. I also no longer think the idea of living by myself is appealing; my vulnerabilities as a social animal is also now apparent.

The biggest hurdle to that kind of lifestyle is that land is perhaps no longer cheap anywhere (I would guess), except for maybe Alaska. I love the cold, but maybe not that much.

Stupid question:
Since you both want to be eco farmers but you need various medicine, have you considered about moving to Europe ? Europe has socialized medicine as well as more developed eco lifestyle. Therefore if you don't need constant 1 in 300 000 people therapy you should be fine almost everywhere. Not to mention that there are English speaking countries in Europe (and younger people speak English around most of the continent). Therefore transition shouldn't be that difficult. Especially since we are taking new people for the sake of repairing demography. So if a first worlder knocks on the door we will take him if they aren't openly problematic person towards the records.

Just saying, this is a potential path as well.

 

[Virtual ghost]

How will global trade be impacted by Red Sea avoidance?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Stupid question:
Since you both want to be eco farmers but you need various medicine, have you considered about moving to Europe ? Europe has socialized medicine as well as more developed eco lifestyle. Therefore if you don't need constant 1 in 300 000 people therapy you should be fine almost everywhere. Not to mention that there are English speaking countries in Europe (and younger people speak English around most of the continent). Therefore transition shouldn't be that difficult. Especially since we are taking new people for the sake of repairing demography. So if a first worlder knocks on the door we will take him if they aren't openly problematic person towards the records.

Just saying, this is a potential path as well.

Don't you typically need something to offer the host country? I'm not sure whether I count or not.

I've seen things suggesting I could get Irish citizenship, but I'm skeptical about how legitimate this is. Don't the Irish hate Americans visiting them and insisting that they're Irish too?

 

[Red Herring]

Don't you typically need something to offer the host country? I'm not sure whether I count or not.

Speaking for Germany here you might need a college degree and a wellpaying job offer for a work permit, it's a little easier if you are working in STEM. Alternatively we are also desperately looking for nurses and other care workers. And you could always try to get into a university program. The good news is that as a US citizen (or citizen of a handful of other rich countries) you have a little more time and can apply from within Germany.

There is actually a serious shortage of skilled personnel in many industries.

Similar rules should apply to most EU countries.

I've seen things suggesting I could get Irish citizenship, but I'm skeptical about how legitimate this is. Don't the Irish hate Americans visiting them and insisting that they're Irish too?

Well, I know a guy from Argentina whose grandpa was Italian. He had his Dad apply for Italian citizenship so that in a second step he could get Italian citizenship himself. With that he could live, work and study in any EU country. But there are obviously a lot of fraudulous websites and service offers out there so do be slightly weary of anything sounding too good to be true.

I don't think the Irish are anti-American per se, it's just that to Europeans "I'm 1/8th French, 1/8th Russian, 1/4 Dutch and 1/2 German" sounds a bit ridiculous. That's just not how identity works over here. Americans claiming Irish identity when they have little to connect them to the island is sort of a trope.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Speaking for Germany here you might need a college degree and a wellpaying job offer for a work permit, it's a little easier if you are working in STEM. Alternatively we are also desperately looking for nurses and other care workers. And you could always try to get into a university program. The good news is that as a US citizen (or citizen of a handful of other rich countries) you have a little more time and can apply from within Germany.

Yeah, that's the rub. I'm having a hard time getting one here where I speak the language. Too junior, not enough experience, don't have the 25 other skills every job is asking for, etc.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

The Irish route may work, actually. It depends upon where my grandmother was born, which seems to be the crucial thing here. She seems to have been born out of wedlock, which probably adds an additional level of difficulty here, as well as a likely impetus for the emigration of my great-grandmother. I'll have to nail that down if I can. I'll also add that I've never met this woman.

 

[ceecee]

The Irish route may work, actually. It depends upon where my grandmother was born, which seems to be the crucial thing here. She seems to have been born out of wedlock, which probably adds an additional level of difficulty here, as well as a likely impetus for the emigration of my great-grandmother. I'll have to nail that down if I can. I'll also add that I've never met this woman.

Our nephew is an electrical engineer (he worked for Detroit Edison - Fermi Nuclear plant for several years). He got a job in Ireland and moved with his family. His wife taught at a community college here and she found a job pretty quickly after they got there but he said it was easier for him because he had a critical skill. They left before Covid and from everything they have said - they are never coming back to the US and are applying for Irish citizenship. Can't say I really blame them.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Don't you typically need something to offer the host country? I'm not sure whether I count or not.

I've seen things suggesting I could get Irish citizenship, but I'm skeptical about how legitimate this is. Don't the Irish hate Americans visiting them and insisting that they're Irish too?

I just presented you with the possible alternative. Especially since having eco-lifestyle while being heavily dependent on medicine doesn't strike me as too realistic plan if you live in the US (especially if we consider where the country is going). However it is you that will have to decide where exactly do you want to go and where you can see yourself settling. Especially since location has direct impact on how exactly your eco story will turn out.

Europe in general has demographic problems to some degree and thus it has active policy to take people who have general European background. Not to mention that is even taking a fare share of 3rd worlders. So you as generally educated US citizen with European roots should be pretty welcome. On the youtube there is a fare share of videos of US citizens who moved into Europe. So perhaps there you can find more personal details in how to do this and what to expect.

From what I understand Trump pushed a wave of people across the Atlantic, so this could happen again and perhaps in even bigger numbers. Therefore acting before this happens is perhaps smart thing to do. As a matter of fact medicine seems to be around the core of this movement from what I understand,

But it is you that will have to sort out the details if you decide to take this route.

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[The Cat]

Why? Because they see an opportunity.

 

[Virtual ghost]

EU pledges to join US-led Red Sea patrol effort

US and Venezuela announce prisoner swap deal

Abramovich: EU court upholds Russian billionaire sanctions

German opposition head Merz hails EU migration deal in Paris

Poland: Populists protest new government's media reforms

Suriname court upholds ex-president's 20-year sentence

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

The year is coming to an end and here is how the polling looks like in "interesting places".



Netherlands — 2023 general election

In elections a few weeks ago far right had a surprise surge and came out first (what shocked many) . However as the time is passing the growth isn't stopping, another post election polls was made a now there is even more support. The new dot is all the way up there at about 32%. The average is lagging but if this is true this is pretty big deal. Since at this level of support you start to take over various towns and regions. Plus it is becoming kinda obvious that the country will vote like this in the upcoming federal elections.



Belgium — 2024 general election
Two far right parties are at the top, third is far left.



Austria — National parliament voting intention
Far right is first and growing.



Czech Republic — National parliament voting intention
Orban friendly centrists in commending lead.



Germany — National parliament voting intention
The only two parties that are growing are center right and far right.
The far right has the best numbers ever.



Estonia — 2023 general election
Sudden surge of the center right to the first place.
Far right is second.



Spain — 2023 general election
After the controversy of the left over making new government with Catalan separatists center right took visible lead.



France — National parliament voting intention
Far right first. Reactive populist left second. Macron third.



Greece — 2023 general election
Collapse of the far left, center right in clear lead.



Croatia — National parliament voting intention
Center right first, sum of far right parties would be second, ex Communists third.



Hungary — National parliament voting intention
Orban in clear lead.



Italy — National parliament voting intention
National conservatives in evident lead.



Poland — 2023 general election
Far right first, center right coalition second, rural right+libertarians third, ex Communists forth, ultra nationalists fifth.



Portugal — 2024 general election
Center left and center right in dead heat before elections. But far right is sneaking up on them, so this could end as Netherlands.
If they continue to grow like this for a few more months they will be within the striking distance to come first.



Romania — National parliament voting intention
Ex Communists first, far right second, center right third.



Sweden — National parliament voting intention
National conservative populists in second place and growing.



Slovenia — National parliament voting intention
The centrist are melting and they are being replaced by the center right.
The president of that party was one of the first leaders to congratulate Trump on 2020 victory.
Country doesn't have a strong far right party since center right is quite to the right.



Slovakia — 2023 general election
Ex Communists first and third.


Etc.


So yeah, the upcoming federal elections will be very very "interesting" (they are in early June).
Thus if the current picture materializes there will evidently be some large scale changes within the system. Since this shows that liberal-centrist ideas are in evident retreat all over the map. Especially since the center right is moving right in order to give far right less space.
There are some smaller countries that were skipped but there the picture is either similar or the place is quite small and thus not too relevant. However in big picture all of this suggests pretty big changes ahead. Potentially this is a "brave new world" scenario.

 

[Virtual ghost]