Random political thought thread.

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

It would be quite a secret because he publicly calls the FBI labeled kingpins of child trafficking "fantastic" and "wishes then well". There are also detailed depositions against him in conjunction with said pedafiles for raping a child. They were neighbors, partied together for years and now he has policies separating children from their parents and then sending them across the border alone. Charitable organizations fighting against human trafficking are jointly sending letters to the White House via Ivanka to plead for these children and stop the newly instated policies which were done en masse under Trump and only in rare cases under Obama. The circumstantial evidence against Trump for these very crimes is significant.

Ah, but that's just a trick to get close to their inner circle. Mere mortals such as you or I cannot grasp Trump's cunning.

 

[Maou]

My biggest issue is the idea that Donald Trump is the guy trying to take it down. That's just you trying to compensate for the fact that he hasn't done any of the things you elected him to do.

He has done multiple things I have elected him to do. Even if you don't accept the same level of what that is.

@Dareyth
I can see how that would be intriguing and I don't have information about it. I may try to study into it. It does seem strange to me that a person would not lose their job over that even if it wasn't classified. I don't know anyone working in the CIA but was married to someone with security clearance at a government facility and I can't imagine him being allowed to publicly state anything related to their work in advance. Even if it was declassified it would have been unimaginable. I think those angencies have a culture of being extremely tight-lipped. Showing badge numbers, even briefly, could end up in a screenshot for proof later and there goes your job. I will look into it more to find out if such a thing would be possible.

Some people have lost their jobs over it. Do you not remember the link I posted last time, about the guy who leaked to /b/, and was called fake and gay. Then promptly was reprimanded in real life? The people who leak effectively, don't show their badge number, they just show they are part of the CIA in certain ways. What I meant earlier by grain of salt, is they don't dox themselves, and why it is easy to forge. (Like Qanon) 4chans anonymous nature, allows them to do so without being caught easily. Just like people anonymously whistle blow to the media.

 

[Maou]

It would be quite a secret because he publicly calls the FBI labeled kingpins of child trafficking "fantastic" and "wishes then well". There are also detailed depositions against him in conjunction with said pedafiles for raping a child. They were neighbors, partied together for years and now he has policies separating children from their parents and then sending them across the border alone. Charitable organizations fighting against human trafficking are jointly sending letters to the White House via Ivanka to plead for these children and stop the newly instated policies which were done en masse under Trump and only in rare cases under Obama. The circumstantial evidence against Trump for these very crimes is significant.

You mean to say he doesn't generalize the entire FBI as one hivemind.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

He has done multiple things I have elected him to do. Even if you don't accept the same level of what that is.

Yeah, Mexico totally paid for that partial wall. Oh wait, I forgot, that wasn't literal. It was a transcendent metaphor all the sheeple are too dumb to grasp.

 

[Maou]

Yeah, Mexico totally paid for that partial wall. Oh wait, I forgot, that wasn't literal. It was a transcendent metaphor all the sheeple are too dumb to grasp.

Anyone with two or more braincells knows how to tell the difference between a speech and actual policy. Trump promised a wall, we got a wall. Trump promised to reduce illegal immigration. Trump reduced illegal immigration. I also love how all Left leaning people use this same exact quote every time. Try a different one.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Anyone with two or more braincells knows how to tell the difference between a speech and actual policy. Trump promised a wall, we got a wall. Trump promised to reduce illegal immigration. Trump reduced illegal immigration. I also love how all Left leaning people use this same exact quote every time. Try a different one.

Oh good, so this from the future President shouldn't matter since it's just a speech:

 

[Maou]

Oh good, so this from the future President shouldn't matter since it's just a speech:

well, if the same people who held Trump accountable for grabbing pussy. They should also hold Biden accountable for liking kids touching his leg hair. Not everyone is the same.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

well, if the same people who held Trump accountable for grabbing pussy. They should also hold Biden accountable for liking kids touching his leg hair. Not everyone is the same.

It's just a speech not policy lol.

And this guy beat the keen intellect and strategic mastery of Trump.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I suppose him losing to Biden was part of his master plan, too.

 

[Maou]

It's just a speech not policy lol.

And this guy beat the keen intellect and strategic mastery of Trump.

I highly doubt it, but nice bait. Also, why didn't that video discourage Democrat supporters if they care more about speech than policy?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I highly doubt it, but nice bait. Also, why didn't that video discourage Democrat supporters if they care more about speech than policy?

Let's try and keep things back on topic. We were discussing the idea that Trump was secretly trying to take down a global pedophile ring. Is that something you believe? From your past statements, it seems that it is.

 

[Maou]

Let's try and keep things back on topic. We were discussing the idea that Trump was secretly trying to take down a global pedophile ring. Is that something you believe? From your past statements, it seems that it is.

Honestly, I don't think so. I also don't think he is capable of such a feat. The people in charge, the "deepstate" have been around for a long time. They won't be unseated because of one uppity orange man who was a lot smarter than they originally thought.

 

[Coriolis]

well, if the same people who held Trump accountable for grabbing pussy. They should also hold Biden accountable for liking kids touching his leg hair. Not everyone is the same.

If you listen carefully, you will note that what he said he liked, was kids jumping on his lap. I doubt if Trump had ever expressed similar enjoyment of interacting with his grandchildren that there would be any objection. Might actually make him more relatable. Instead, though, my understanding was that he had no time for children, and left their care completely to their mothers and possibly paid carers.

 

[Red Herring]

A recent example, is CIA posted a thread about how they were about to raid servers in Frankfort, Germany. A week later, Sidney Powell today in the Lawyer conference with Rudy Giuliani, confirmed that servers to dominion voting were seized in Frankfort (asked by a journalist, who probably was reading /pol/ threads). She just said she wasn't sure if it was done by the good or bad people. They just know it was seized. This confirmed the original post made by the CIA employee on 4chan. .

As far as I could check that raid is an internet myth. In fact Dominion doesn't have any servers in Europe that they use for US elections. The only have or had one server center formerly used for EU elections.
Do you have any reputable source for that raid ever happening? The only German websites I could find talking about this (mostly just mentioning the rumor existing rather than confirming it) were all totally disreputable fringe conspiracy websites.

 

[Maou]

If you listen carefully, you will note that what he said he liked, was kids jumping on his lap. I doubt if Trump had ever expressed similar enjoyment of interacting with his grandchildren that there would be any objection. Might actually make him more relatable. Instead, though, my understanding was that he had no time for children, and left their care completely to their mothers and possibly paid carers.

Look, you can interpret how you want it. But I don't see how sniffing young girls isn't creepy in any sense.

Also, the media selling Biden as "Uncle" is even more creepy, as most child abuse come from "uncles".

Child sexual abuse by uncles: a risk assessment - PubMed.

 

[Maou]

As far as I could check that raid is an internet myth. In fact Dominion doesn't have any servers in Europe that they use for US elections. The only have or had one server center formerly used for EU elections.
Do you have any reputable source for that raid ever happening? The only German websites I could find talking about this (mostly just mentioning the rumor existing rather than confirming it) were all totally disreputable fringe conspiracy websites.

I already told you, Sydney Powell. Just because the media "Fact checks" something, doesn't mean it's false. Like I said before, they are on Biden's side. They either didn't know, and had no way of verifying it either. But of course, let the media tell you what happened and obey and believe. Like was said earlier in this thread, they CIA keeps things confidential. Why would the media report on it?

 

[FemMecha]

You mean to say he doesn't generalize the entire FBI as one hivemind.

I don't understand what you mean here.

These depositions from victims are currently being amassed and there will be ongoing trials after evidence is collected. One update to the article and quotes is that Maxwell has been arrested and charged. This investigation has been going on for a long time and the names Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew are intermingled throughout its history.

Feds say Jeffrey Epstein suicide won'''t stop effort to get justice

Look, you can interpret how you want it. But I don't see how sniffing young girls isn't creepy in any sense.

Also, the media selling Biden as "Uncle" is even more creepy, as most child abuse come from "uncles".

Child sexual abuse by uncles: a risk assessment - PubMed.

It is very important to take a look at how a truth value is established. The issue with Biden is one of gossip and pre-supposing. There is only one sexual misconduct allegation filed against him and the woman who filed it was found to have falsified her educational background to get into law school. Trump has 26 deposition filed against him for sexual harassment, rape, and misconduct. To be a responsible thinker it matters. One cannot use vague impressions as holding the same truth value as 26 depositions. Bill Clinton also has sexual misconduct allegations against him, so no one is too big to be accused. The absence of charges against Biden has meaning to support his innocence.

This gossip mentality is what ruins society at every level. Evidence based fact building is important.

Edit: To say that referring to Biden as "uncle" infers he molests children is a completely irresponsible moral leap. Depositions, then a trial, exhibit A, B, and then jury deliberations. This is how guilt or innocence is established, not church whisperings and gossip about little nuances and inferences. That is reckless and irresponsible.

 

[Red Herring]

I already told you, Sydney Powell. Just because the media "Fact checks" something, doesn't mean it's false. Like I said before, they are on Biden's side. They either didn't know, and had no way of verifying it either. But of course, let the media tell you what happened and obey and believe. Like was said earlier in this thread, they CIA keeps things confidential. Why would the media report on it?

Okay, if I undertand you correctly, you don't trust politicians (unless they are on Trump's team), you don't trust journalists foreign or domestic, you don't trust judges or elctoral committees, you don't trust international observers, you don't trusts scientists and academics either (said so in another threat IIRC) but you do believe stories spreading on 4Chan because the people there are smart.

You explicitely named that raid happenig as an example of a 4Chan rumor turning out to be true but there is no proof that actually happend. So the only proof for a 4Chan rumor being true is another 4Can rumor. This is circular logic.


Sidney Powell saying something happend doesn't make it so. So far she has made baseless claims but there is no evidence, just empty claims and rumors and more rumors.

 

[FemMecha]

I'll put this in a second post in case it needs to be deleted. Weigh a creepy feeling of a video of Biden leaning in close to a child in public, in front of everyone with this deposition from a woman describing a rape by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein when she was 13. It was not taken to court, she was too afraid to show her face, so it cannot be established as fact, but within the context of Trump's long-term friendship as neighbors and party buddies with Epstein, I at least find it deeply sobering. As I said before the FBI is building a case against Epstein with documentation with many depositions, so this issue will see its day in court and establish what are the demonstrable facts. The filing below includes another deposition by a woman employed by Epstein who witnessed the rapes.

Can one see how one could find this more troubling than a photo of Biden leaning in towards a child in front of everyone? Considering there is not a single allegation filed legally against Biden involving any child, and only one involving an adult woman known to lie in other instances.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

 

[FemMecha]

The whole f$cking gang

Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump's friendship: a timeline