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Random political thought thread.

Kingu Kurimuzon

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in another life, he'd have made a great hardball interviewer/investigative journalist. Savage. Cringe at the VJ's stumbling and complete misunderstanding. That zoom in on DB's face at the end needs to be a reaction gif.

 

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I really don't think moderates join the right because they are more attractive. They do it because the Left went extreamist. What was left of center 40 years ago, is now considered right winged. I don't get how becoming a Left wing extremist is any better than becoming a right wing extremist. Republican views haven't really changed much, but Liberal veiws have changed pretty drastically in the last 50 years. This constant change alienates people. Its generally why as people age, they become more conservative.

I can definitely understand why it would feel that way but I do disagree. What looks like a shift to the left to some is just history doing its work its work to others. Things have simply accelerated due to literacy, a faster exchange of views and information, etc. Take your sentence about what Was leftwing 40 years ago now being considered rightwing. Just as a thought experiment, make that 100 and say it again - it would still be sort of true, even more so than 40. Letting women vote? Leftwing, not letting children work in factories? Leftwing! Allow interracial marriage? Leftwing! Now lets make that 50 years ago, just ten years before your point of reference for what is normal: it is now 1970, just a year after the Stonewall riots, it's another 8 years (two before your normal!) until Harvey Milk gets assasinated and right now homosexuality is illegal in almost all of the United States. Martin Luther King was assasinated just two years ago and the Montgomery march was just five years ago. The Civil Rights Act was passed two years ago before a background of massive riots in the streets. In Louisiana a law making the husband the sole owner of a couple's property wasn't overturned until 1981 - even after your normal! Marital rape wasn't illegal in all states until 1993 and its criminalization only started in the 70 s, so not being allowed to force yourself on your wife? Definitely leftwing!
Labor rights have continuously improved until the 1980s when they started being rolled back to the point where (I am admitedly quoting Wikipedia here) "In 2014, the United States received a poor grade of "4" on the ITUC's Global Rights Index, which ranks the worst places in the world for workers' rights, with "1" being the best and "5" the worst.[139] Other nations and regions that scored a "4" include Argentina, Bahrain, El Salvador, Haiti, Hong Kong, Iraq, Iran, Mexico and Yemen."

So there might be two lessons here: 1. Change and progress are normal and overall a good thing and 2. the main mistake of the American left probably was allowing the right to roll back labor rights and widen the income divide while playing poor white people against poor black people.
 
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So there might be two lessons here: 1. Change and progress are normal and overall a good thing and 2. the main mistake of the American left probably was allowing the right to roll back labor rights and widen the income divide while playing poor white people against poor black people.

Yup.
 

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Not a reaction to anyone in particular, just thought this was a great reaction gif for the current day and age
 
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In my opinion, it's the incompetence of moderate centrist politicians that got us to this point. They enabled all the crazies will pissing on actual progressives for decades. Look at who they are blaming for not doing better in the House and Senate, for instance. The centrists are the ones ones who run the damn Democratic party, though. Maybe there's something you folks need to be doing differently? Perhaps stop blowing money on grifting consultants, Donald Duck costumes and candidates like Amy McGrath, for instance.

More on the duck:

The duck is the intellectual property of Disney,” Brazile told Elias, on her account. “They could sue us, OK? Do you want that story out there? Hillary’s about to go to California to raise money, and she’s going to see Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, who is holding this fundraiser, and this is coming from him. What do you want to do? Have him cancel the fundraiser? I know you all want that money. So get rid of the f—ing duck!

My frustration with the Democratic party is driven as much by frustration about incompetence is it is about actual political differences. If they were good at actually stopping the insane dipshits in the GOP and preserving the kind of stability and status quo they see as desirable, that would be one thing; but they aren't. I mean, a Donald Duck costume? Aren't these the same people responsible for altering copyright law to suit the whims of Disney? A lot of these people have backgrounds in law for crying out loud. And what was the duck even supposed to DO? Who is watching these damn Trump rallies who would actually vote for Clinton? Perhaps they were hoping it would get some publicity... but it doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd got a good return on investment for, especially for all the legal trouble you could get in.
 

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Labor rights have continuously improved until the 1980s when they started being rolled back to the point where (I am admitedly quoting Wikipedia here) "In 2014, the United States received a poor grade of "4" on the ITUC's Global Rights Index, which ranks the worst places in the world for workers' rights, with "1" being the best and "5" the worst.[139] Other nations and regions that scored a "4" include Argentina, Bahrain, El Salvador, Haiti, Hong Kong, Iraq, Iran, Mexico and Yemen."

So there might be two lessons here: 1. Change and progress are normal and overall a good thing and 2. the main mistake of the American left probably was allowing the right to roll back labor rights and widen the income divide while playing poor white people against poor black people.


I couldn't resist so I googled that workers rights index and ended with this map.



 

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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

check the one guy bitching about handouts and then saying "but I need muh food stamps"

derp derp
 

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Hardly anyone wore masks to the Trump’s NPCs MAGA March in DC.

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Not to mention hardly any masks worn at a recent protest by Trump supporters in my city right after the election. And today there were over 2000 new cases reported in my state
 

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I will say thanks to Kayleigh McEnany for giving us a nice Sean Spicer throwback by inflating the crowd size at the so-called "Million MAGA" March. Only makes sense to come full circle before the administration leaves kicking and screaming in toddler-like defiance.
 

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Hardly anyone wore masks to the Trump’s NPCs MAGA March in DC.

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Not to mention hardly any masks worn at a recent protest by Trump supporters in my city right after the election. And today there were over 2000 new cases reported in my state



Funny, that video game influenced me quite a bit in how I saw the world as a kid. Actually good chunk of my orderliness has foundation in this silly game.
 

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The surprise finding of the exit polls is that moderates and men provided the crucial swing voters who put Joe Biden into office.

We are one country divided by two parties. The nation is largely moderate, practical and driven by common sense over ideology. Most voters prefer compromise on health care, immigration, stimulus and other thorny issues that the extremes of the parties have pushed to the limits. Only 24% of voters identify as liberal, while 38% say they’re conservative, according to CNN exit polls. Another 38% are moderate. Despite the widespread publicity given the left, since 2014—a good year for Republicans—the percentage of self-identified liberals declined 2 points, while the share of conservatives increased 3 points.

America’s Shockingly Moderate Electorate - WSJ
 

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Not sure how the current residents feel about this, but seems that Trump wants to buy Greenland. I wonder if he is going to pull a Joseph Smith and take his followers with him.

I know he is thinking of the U.S. buying it, but he is doing aggressive fundraising from his followers. It's just stuff that makes you go hmmmmm.....
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Not sure how the current residents feel about this, but seems that Trump wants to buy Greenland. I wonder if he is going to pull a Joseph Smith and take his followers with him.

I know he is thinking of the U.S. buying it, but he is doing aggressive fundraising from his followers. It's just stuff that makes you go hmmmmm.....
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That was like a year and a half ago I think.

The article is dated Aug. 16 2019. He isn't thinking of buying it. He said it so media chuds like the Wall Street Journal print his bullshit because they have and will continue to devote tons of space to this piece of shit.
 

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Not sure how the current residents feel about this, but seems that Trump wants to buy Greenland. I wonder if he is going to pull a Joseph Smith and take his followers with him.

I know he is thinking of the U.S. buying it, but he is doing aggressive fundraising from his followers. It's just stuff that makes you go hmmmmm.....
:thinking:

I'm done with the universe. x.x
 

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The population of Greenland is only 56,807. "Greenland is the world's largest island, with a size of 2.175. 600 square kilometers. That area is larger than the following countries combined: France, Germany, Spain, United Kingdom, Italy, Greece, Switzerland, and Belgium." quote from greelandtravel.com

I really wonder.
 

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Conservatives freaking out at Harry Styles wearing a dress is peak conservative. More blithering about cultural Marxism and culture war nonsense.
 
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