The Dangerous Case Of Donald Trump

[ceecee]

Not entirely sure on the numbers, but I think Trump has done more drone strikes while Obama seems to have had more interventions-without-boots-on-the-ground-so-it's-not-a-war type things (while also using drones). Not sure how the number of coup attempts stack up, either. It's not entirely clear to me that Trump is an "improvement" on Obama with foreign policy since he's escalated drone strikes and also continued to attempt coups. I'll concede that his foreign policy is better than Dubya's.

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obamas numbers - Chicago Sun-Times

 

[Jaguar]

I think this Melania chick is even more insane than he is. Listen to her. What a nut.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

The tweet is real, but I don't know if this really happened. I just know it's credible.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Link to tweet containing link to Stanford study.

Shame he couldn't have held the rallies after election day. A lot of really smart, very good people are saying the virus is going to magically disappear the very next day.

 

[anticlimatic]

Three years of open prosperity and a strong economy even in the middle of a pandemic (that no country knows how to deal with, despite desperate desire to blame trump for anything/everything), and greater peace in the Middle East than any of us have seen in our lifetimes.

Probably time to rescind the "dangerous" projection here.

 

[ceecee]

lol No one gives a shit about the Middle East.

 

[FemMecha]

Greater peace in the Middle East because he enabled Israel to completely dominate the Palestinians by moving the capitol to Jerusalem (I still don't get how that was his decision, but it is credited to him), and he is a business buddy with Saudi Arabia.

 

[ceecee]

Greater peace in the Middle East because he enabled Israel to completely dominate the Palestinians by moving the capitol to Jerusalem (I still don't get how that was his decision, but it is credited to him), and he is a business buddy with Saudi Arabia.

Trump's Middle East accord is the illusion of peace for Israel - Business Insider

Yeah Israel is an apartheid state and additionally an occupying force. It's not a peace anything and will never be as long as the US is supporting Israel without question. Fortunately, that is starting to change, especially at the federal level and that bodes well for the US in the future. More cooperation, more stability in the region and, yanno, less terrorism.

 

[FemMecha]

Trump's Middle East accord is the illusion of peace for Israel - Business Insider

Yeah Israel is an apartheid state and additionally an occupying force. It's not a peace anything and will never be as long as the US is supporting Israel without question. Fortunately, that is starting to change, especially at the federal level and that bodes well for the US in the future. More cooperation, more stability in the region and, yanno, less terrorism.

The Religious Right that supports Trump is in support of Israel because most think that is prophesied in Revelation and is supposed to happen for Jesus to return, but many conspiracy theorists are against Israel, including a lot of the Qanon related stuff. I have been wondering about that. How do the Holocaust deniers and the people who think Jewish bankers are reptilians from another star system deal with this aspect of Trump? I guess cognitive dissonance isn't prohibitive when one is reality optional.

I can appreciate that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict has complexities, but from what I understand there has been a lot of unjust suffering forced onto Palestinians that I cannot morally embrace. It is also a strange history of the U.S. attempting to control financially and militarily the outcome. It isn't our place to do that. If there is interference in the region it needs to be negotiated more globally with every side examined.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Trump is planning to blanket ban all vape products based on a handful of deaths resulting mostly from people using black market THC wax and oil mixtures.

The deaths weren’t usually resulting from the devices and juices most normies buy over the counter

Also he has obfuscated by conflating two separate issues: teen use of juul and similar cartridge based products vs aforementioned sales of black market thc based vaping products. Two separate and barely overlapping issues that should be addressed separately rather than with one big blanket ban

 

[FemMecha]

I'm probably getting too colorful in my descriptions, but it is out of frustration and that some of the absurdness gets glossed over. My basic question is how does the whole Neo-Nazi realm relate to Trump's foreign policies? The Neo-Nazi's donated money for his campaign. I am curious about that.

 

[ceecee]

The Religious Right that supports Trump is in support of Israel because most think that is prophesied in Revelation and is supposed to happen for Jesus to return, but many conspiracy theorists are against Israel, including a lot of the Qanon related stuff. I have been wondering about that. How do the Holocaust deniers and the people who think Jewish bankers are reptilians from another star system deal with this aspect of Trump? I guess cognitive dissonance isn't prohibitive when one is reality optional.

I can appreciate that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict has complexities, but from what I understand there has been a lot of unjust suffering forced onto Palestinians that I cannot morally embrace. It is also a strange history of the U.S. attempting to control financially and militarily the outcome. It isn't our place to do that. If there is interference in the region it needs to be negotiated more globally with every side examined.

Palestine is basically an open air prison, administered by Israel. No one should be supporting this but the Israel lobby has been strong for 70 years in the US. Change has to start in the US, not in the middle east.

The religious right in the US is insane and should never ever be able to dictate policy in this country or any other. Plus it's been adopted by not only conspiracies like QAnon but dominion/7 Mountain Christian nationalism believed by Ted Cruz, Betsy DeVos and other GOP operatives, especially in TX.

 

[ceecee]

Trump supporters stranded in cold for nearly two hours after MAGA rally in Pennsylvania | Daily Mail Online

Twice in one week? Man, Trump seriously hates MAGA people.

 

[FemMecha]

The current political issue of children being separated at the border facilitating the child sex trafficking industry, and the fight against this.

Why I signed a letter to Ivanka Trump urging her to protect human trafficking survivors

Quotes from the article:
"A U.S. anti-trafficking law has been upended, lifting protections for vulnerable children. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has quietly decided to suspend those protections, including resuming deportations of minors who pose no health or safety concern, allegedly to protect the U.S. from COVID-19. "

Letter to Ivanka Trump from WHI

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Trump's social connection with Epstein as possible conspirators

This article comes as close to directly naming Trump and Bill Clinton as co-conspirators as they possibly can without the legal ramifications of making that direct statement. Prince Andrew is named in the article and elsewhere. Trump and Bill Clinton are named specifically as "friends" of Epstein multiple times in the article. These depositions are currently being amassed and I suspect there will be ongoing trials after evidence is amassed. One update to the article and quotes is that Maxwell has been arrested and charged.
Feds say Jeffrey Epstein suicide won't stop effort to get justice

Quotes from article:
Epstein, a former friend of Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, died from hanging himself earlier in August.

Neither Maxwell nor any other of Epstein’s alleged conspirators has been criminally charged. But the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey Berman, has suggested some of them could be.

And Gloria Allred, a high-profile lawyer for a number of Epstein’s accusers, told Judge Berman, “We do want truth. We do want justice. We do want those conspirators to face justice.”

Rape deposition against Trump and Epstein

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Trump's public statements on Epstein and Maxwell

on Epstein
Jeffrey Epstein: Trump noted financier likes women on '''younger side''' - Business Insider

on Maxwell
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12308...-maxwell-well-again-doesnt-know-why-arrested/

 

[ceecee]

The current political issue of children being separated at the border facilitating the child sex trafficking industry, and the fight against this.

Why I signed a letter to Ivanka Trump urging her to protect human trafficking survivors

Quotes from the article:
"A U.S. anti-trafficking law has been upended, lifting protections for vulnerable children. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has quietly decided to suspend those protections, including resuming deportations of minors who pose no health or safety concern, allegedly to protect the U.S. from COVID-19. "

Letter to Ivanka Trump from WHI

**************************************************
Trump's social connection with Epstein as possible conspirators

This article comes as close to directly naming Trump and Bill Clinton as co-conspirators as they possibly can without the legal ramifications of making that direct statement. Prince Andrew is named in the article and elsewhere. Trump and Bill Clinton are named specifically as "friends" of Epstein multiple times in the article. These depositions are currently being amassed and I suspect there will be ongoing trials after evidence is amassed. One update to the article and quotes is that Maxwell has been arrested and charged.
Feds say Jeffrey Epstein suicide won't stop effort to get justice

Quotes from article:
Epstein, a former friend of Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, died from hanging himself earlier in August.

Neither Maxwell nor any other of Epstein’s alleged conspirators has been criminally charged. But the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey Berman, has suggested some of them could be.

And Gloria Allred, a high-profile lawyer for a number of Epstein’s accusers, told Judge Berman, “We do want truth. We do want justice. We do want those conspirators to face justice.”

Rape deposition against Trump and Epstein

***************************************
Trump's public statements on Epstein and Maxwell

on Epstein
Jeffrey Epstein: Trump noted financier likes women on '''younger side''' - Business Insider

on Maxwell
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12308...-maxwell-well-again-doesnt-know-why-arrested/

I didn't even think about this - we could be rid of her and her failson husband.

 

[FemMecha]

Then there are current investigations into his Trump Organization by the New York Attorney General

Trump is a man backed into an extreme corner. He has a lot of criminal charges to face when his presidency ends. He has no other option but fight it to the death. He will not leave office except by force because he has only criminal charges and arrests waiting for him.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Then there are current investigations into his Trump Organization by the New York Attorney General

Trump is a man backed into an extreme corner. He has a lot of criminal charges to face when his presidency ends. He has no other option but fight it to the death. He will not leave office except by force because he has only criminal charges and arrests waiting for him.

Meh, I don't think he's going to jail. He's rich.

 

[ceecee]

Meh, I don't think he's going to jail. He's rich.

Same

 

[Stigmata]

Meh, I don't think he's going to jail. He's rich.

Same

Biden trying to pull some Ford "heal the nation" pardon bullshit would not stand at all.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Same

I think the only Dubya guy who got convicted was some low-level flunky Scooter Libby, and I don't even think he faced jail time. At any rate, Trump pardoned him.