The Problem of Disinformation

[The Cat]

 

[Maou]

Thank you, thank you, although I think you misunderstood about my message. I think I need to be a little more... Direct? Direct!

So, there is a famous doctor in Brazil here, because of TV shows... He mentioned in the end of January that everyone of the population should calm down about Corona, he said that everything was under control, no time for panicking, stuff like that...
Then, two weeks ago, Bolsonaro followers spread his message all over whatsapp, and part of the web, saying that doctor support Bolsonaro. The doctor had to go in the Social Media and TV to re-explain that the message was old and that the virus was underestimated. So far, perhaps it was an accident of the Bolsonaro followers? (1)
Then, two days later, they came with a message starting "What so, leftopats? WHO director is against quarantine" and with message they, on a very moralistic effort and showing how according to science they were, shared a fruitpicked (and a good one) of a director from WHO, something like that because I just ignored the message as usual. The lies are daily here and these messages arent worthy, you know?

Then, just another day, they were sharing some statistics comparing Corona deaths (that was a week ago? Or two I dont remember) with stuff like flu, etc.. vs the Corona, I think that was one of the massive whatsapp media campaign for "Brazil cant stop" which was against the quarantine (unofficially, of course), showing how much logically the decision of coming back was. (2) And one of the billionaires here, or two, used some statistic as well? And so one of them even said that it was ok few people dying, people just die anyway.. And then latter the president even mentioned: Death is just part of life. But getting back to the point, (a) the Corona is just a few months old while the other virus are here for some centuries, they are comparing data of 2-3 months old of something that is still growing exponentially while the other data is yearly with low growth, (2) biggest threat in statistics isnt the mortality rate, but the spread rate and the potential to overflow the country's hospital; But what happens in this case is that Brazil is a 3rd country, if even Italy and Spain, countries which got a relatively good health system, are not supporting, what do you think it is going to happen for a sector that is already 80-90% of capacity (private and public combined) when the 50-80% of the population get the virus, although only a fraction of these are going to need it? It is going to saturate and kill, if nothing happens. Thankfully, perhaps things slightly changed because a medication is soon to be coming? Hope that isnt fake news again.

So, the (1) that I marked in this way and (2) I marked in this way... Both have a very similar version here (none of them were you), and the side that spread them here, nationally (here, not there), are dishonest, which doesnt auto imply that the ones here are but makes things likely to be, and Im just trying to show you that, you know, perhaps, there is something wrong "around" you, you know? Because of... I think you get it. And from those "surroundings" I just feel you dont seem to fit, for some odd reason (no logical reason I admit), although people might treat you like you do.

Sorry, your post is quite hard to understand. Can you just provide the questions you want to ask me, and I'll use your information here as reference.

 

[Jaguar]

That's true. Medical disinformation is way worse. I would presume the reason for the prohibition on medical advice, though, stems from the potential that such information might actually be disinformation. Presumably, they wish to avoid disinformation since that can cause harm, including liability issues. It seems logical that the prohibition of medical disinformation is implicit in that policy. If this were not the case, I fail to understand the rationale for such a policy.

What is the Unauthorized Practice of Medicine? - FindLaw

The unauthorized practice of medicine occurs when someone gives medical advice or treatment without a professional license. The prohibition against the unauthorized practice of medicine is a precaution against people who would try to treat others without the proper training, or by using unproven methods which could harm or even kill their supposed patients. As a result, all states make the unauthorized practice of medicine a criminal offense with potentially serious penalties. However, the practice of medicine itself is a slippery term which can be difficult to define.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

What is the Unauthorized Practice of Medicine? - FindLaw

Like I was saying, the two things are interrelated.

 

[Jaguar]

Like I was saying, the two things are interrelated.

If the person is incompetent, sure. Conversely, just because someone has a license to practice medicine doesn't mean their opinion on X, Y, or Z is worth a shit. It just means they have a license.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

If the person is incompetent, sure. Conversely, just because someone has a license to practice medicine doesn't mean their opinion on X, Y, or Z is worth a shit. It just means they have a license.

Well, yes. I'm not in denial about that.


I don't think posting out of context quotes from CDC officials from early February falls under the category of "competence" andI'm sure you don't either.

 

[Vendrah]

Sorry, your post is quite hard to understand. Can you just provide the questions you want to ask me, and I'll use your information here as reference.

I had tried to be as clear as possible and I cant be more direct than I already was.

I got no questions, thx.

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

I feel you.

 

[The Cat]

I feel you.

 

[ceecee]

Fox News Is Preparing to Be Sued Over Coronavirus Misinformation | Vanity Fair

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Fox News Is Preparing to Be Sued Over Coronavirus Misinformation | Vanity Fair

may b ethical capitalist mike bloombegr will by them

 

[á´…eparted]

This is not surprising, and it is good to see research confirming it. Disinformation is not merely lying, it's the distortion of information more often than not, and it is the stickiest form of it. There is always a grain of truth in it, and that is a key reason why it circulates so much and why people will cling to it. And, when you try to battle it, they cite the grain of truth and ignore you and the nuance/details.

Majority of coronavirus misinformation 'twists and reworks facts', study finds | Euronews

 

[ygolo]

This may be how people feel when they run into disinformation. I, unfortunately, have had conversations like the this too, but I was far less patient.

 

[ceecee]

I'm truly surprised this or something like it hasn't been posted somewhere on this forum already.

 

[Swivelinglight]

lmfao surveillance rolls

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I'm truly surprised this or something like it hasn't been posted somewhere on this forum already.

I'm disappointed by the lack of gay frogs. How can you have weaponized bats, but no gay frogs?

 

[Maou]

I'm truly surprised this or something like it hasn't been posted somewhere on this forum already.

I am sorry you think all Republicans are schizo. Lol, weak bait. 下げる

 

[ceecee]

I am sorry you think all Republicans are schizo. Lol, weak bait. 下げる

I don't but the fact that you jumped on this to defend what you think I'm saying is revealing.

 

[ceecee]

Misinforming the Majority: A Deliberate Strategy of Right-Wing Libertarians

Interesting interview on how James McGill Buchanan helped dismantle the liberal democratic state (with the help of Charles Koch of course). But they would have never succeeded had the public been informed about their libertarian right wing dismantling plans. Of course we'll get the FAKE NEWS! pearl clutching but every that's said, people should know it's something that likely should be listened to.