Kingu Kurimuzon
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It's important to prepare for the worst case scenario, which is that Biden (a true Republican-lite candidate) wins the nomination. What do you think will the American people be subjected to in that time between then and when he probably loses the general election?
Here are a few of my guesses:
- We need to return to normalcy. Normalcy, in this case, meant wages staying stagnant (not that Trump has done anything to help the situation), but hey, profits on Wall Street skyrocketed, so everything is fine... this has been the case for all of my adult life by the way in "good" economic times... and the commentators act mystified about why productivity and profits have grown but wages haven't.
- We need a robust foreign policy and be a world leader again, Trump has weakened all of us by not taking an active role on the world stage.
- Free trade is an undeniable good that should never be questioned.
- Donald Trump has tarnished the institution of the Presidency. We need someone who will value norms.
I think Sanders is very good at addressing bad idea 1 and 3. Gabbard is good at addressing bad idea 2. Both are good at addressing bad idea 4, because the candidates themselves are represent concepts outside the treasured "norms." (If the norms were so great and valuable, Trump wouldn't have become President in the first place. The electoral college is a "norm.")
It's important that Sanders and Gabbard (and Marianne, and maybe Yang) get as much airtime as possible, because this helps create counters to all of the crap Biden will be spewing if he wins the nomination. People need to realize that alternatives to shit exist.
I think it was you who said we should worry about repeating 2004 rather than 1972? If Biden is nominee, it could very well be a repeat of 2004. The republicans will of course hammer Biden on every little thing he's backtracked on or every view/position he's evolved over the years. They will bring up his opposition to busing in the 70s and play the "dems are the real racists" card again.
I also don't see Biden doing a great job of luring the mythical swing voter.
Marianne is far less of a loony than she's been portrayed.