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[Traditional Enneagram] ENFJ with enneagram 5, is that possible?

Virtual ghost

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Thank you all for your responses, I'm reading all of the ennea types right now and can relate to a little bit of each one of them, which sucks :rotfl:


We all have all 9 types in us. The only question is how much each of them is expressed in us.



 

geedoenfj

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We all have all 9 types in us. The only question is how much each of them is expressed in us.




Yes VG bring that spirit out of my depths of self, I really need a 3 right now, I want a glory, the success, I wasted enough time already! it's time to build up some 3 :harley: lol
However I find some of 9 that I can relate to so far, I truly hate conflicts and try to avoid them by any means..
 

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Yes VG bring that spirit out of my depths of self, I really need a 3 right now, I want a glory, the success, I wasted enough time already! it's time to build up some 3 :harley: lol
However I find some of 9 that I can relate to so far, I truly hate conflicts and try to avoid them by any means..

Well 9 is one of the types that I suggested for you.
Perhaps it would not hurt to go through tritype profile of 359 types. (the thinker)

Just google "27 enneagram tritypes" and profiles of tritypes should come out.
 

geedoenfj

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Well 9 is one of the types that I suggested for you.
Perhaps it would not hurt to go through tritype profile of 359 types. (the thinker)

Just google "27 enneagram tritypes" and profiles of tritypes should come out.

Thank you so much :hug: I truly find your suggestions of great value and is putting me on the right direction, I will definitely do more researching on that, I don't need to rush anything, taking one step at a time would bring more accurate results ^_^
 

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[MENTION=9310]uumlau[/MENTION] is 953 and [MENTION=12103]Poki[/MENTION] are probably a 593. I am 359. For reference points. The thing about the 359 tritypes and e5, in general, is that they are markedly some of the most introverted types. In real life, I would be considered fairly socially introverted but I still do get energized by other people and have a stronger preference for Fe.

I vote against primary e5, because you don't seem to be reading into the nitty gritty of the enneagram system to figure out your type. They are called "the investigator" for a reason.
 

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Thank you so much :hug: I truly find your suggestions of great value and is putting me on the right direction, I will definitely do more researching on that, I don't need to rush anything, taking one step at a time would bring more accurate results ^_^

Hi geedoenfj! I'm a 4w3 ENFJ and I wanted to ask - have you considered INFJ 4w5? I obviously don't know you, but I'm not sensing extroversion in you at all...nor am I getting a 3 vibe. I can definitely see 4 in you by all your thoughtful responses...this would explain your affinity for 5, too. I really feel like you should look into that combo instead. Sorry for my short response - I have much more to say but only a second to type. Holler back with any thoughts or questions and I'll tailor my responses.

-Tweet
 

geedoenfj

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Hi geedoenfj! I'm a 4w3 ENFJ and I wanted to ask - have you considered INFJ 4w5? I obviously don't know you, but I'm not sensing extroversion in you at all...nor am I getting a 3 vibe. I can definitely see 4 in you by all your thoughtful responses...this would explain your affinity for 5, too. I really feel like you should look into that combo instead. Sorry for my short response - I have much more to say but only a second to type. Holler back with any thoughts or questions and I'll tailor my responses.

-Tweet

Hello Tweet, well for a long time I thought I was an Introvert, maybe because of my Enneagram, but actually when you meet me in person, you'd definitely find an extroverted, although I don't prefer to get out of the house, but I also kind of "She arrived, the party begins" and realize that well it wasn't a bad idea after all, I'm blending with them pretty well, when I am not coming to an occasion they're like: "why didn't you come, the party was so boring without you", I remember I once went to a birthday of my sister's friend and they were impressed, she told me later that all her friends were like "Oh my God where have you been hiding your sister" they quite often even resemble me with some ESFPs in the place, but then suddenly I am observant and making just few conversations from here and there, and they don't know that I wish to go home to do some reading :laugh:
 

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Hello Tweet, well for a long time I thought I was an Introvert, maybe because of my Enneagram, but actually when you meet me in person, you'd definitely find an extroverted, although I do prefer to get out of the house, but I also kind of "She arrived, the party begins" and when I am not coming to an occasion they're like: "why didn't you come, the party was so boring without you", I remember I once went to a birthday of my sister's friend and they were impressed, she told me later that all her friends were like "Oh my God where have you been hiding your sister" they quite often even resemble me with some ESFPs in the place, but then suddenly I am observant and making just few conversations from here and there, and they don't know that I wish to go home to do some reading..

Not to just push my position on you, but I do have an INFJ friend like that. Very much so. I was SHOCKED that she was an introvert - but its true. Its more about a thinking preference than about how a person is perceived. The best explanation I've heard is that an introvert thinks before they talk and extroverts talk aloud in order to sort out their thoughts. For instance, I never edit posts. I just post it with typos and whatever. Gotta move on.

Also, being an introvert doesnt make a person anti-social.
 

geedoenfj

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Hi geedoenfj! I'm a 4w3 ENFJ and I wanted to ask - have you considered INFJ 4w5? I obviously don't know you, but I'm not sensing extroversion in you at all...nor am I getting a 3 vibe. I can definitely see 4 in you by all your thoughtful responses...this would explain your affinity for 5, too. I really feel like you should look into that combo instead. Sorry for my short response - I have much more to say but only a second to type. Holler back with any thoughts or questions and I'll tailor my responses.

-Tweet

Hello Tweet, well for a long time I thought I was an Introvert, maybe because of my Enneagram, but actually when you meet me in person, you'd definitely find an extroverted, although I do prefer to get out of the house, but I also kind of "She arrived, the party begins" and when I am not coming to an occasion they're like: "why didn't you come, the party was so boring without you", I remember I once went to a birthday of my sister's friend and they were impressed, she told me later that all her friends were like "Oh my God where have you been hiding your sister" they quite often even resemble me with some ESFPs in the place, but then suddenly I am observant and making just few conversations from here and there, and they don't know that I wish to go home to do some reading..

:thinking: well I know some extroverts who like to stay at home like my ENTP husband :shrug: I have an INFJ sister and I can see the difference, I relate much more to ENFJ in discreption and everything, but I would say I have a slight E over I, I am not a typical Extroverted and also not an Introverted :D
 

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Also, being an introvert doesnt make a person anti-social.


Eh, I don't know about that. I can be very anti-social. My ENFJ husband can be too but I think that's a natural thing for them at times, much like ENFP's.
 

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Not to just push my position on you, but I do have an INFJ friend like that. Very much so. I was SHOCKED that she was an introvert - but its true. Its more about a thinking preference than about how a person is perceived. The best explanation I've heard is that an introvert thinks before they talk and extroverts talk aloud in order to sort out their thoughts. For instance, I never edit posts. I just post it with typos and whatever. Gotta move on.

Also, being an introvert doesnt make a person anti-social.


:thinking: well I know some extroverts who like to stay at home like my ENTP husband :shrug: and sometimes my ESFP cousin, an ESTP friend, there's no way you can tell they're an introverts and the discreption very much apply to them, I have an INFJ sister and I can see the difference, I relate much more to ENFJ in discreption and everything, but I would say I have a slight E over I, I am not a typical Extroverted and also not an Introverted :D
 

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[MENTION=9310]uumlau[/MENTION] is 953 and [MENTION=12103]Poki[/MENTION] are probably a 593. I am 359. For reference points. The thing about the 359 tritypes and e5, in general, is that they are markedly some of the most introverted types. In real life, I would be considered fairly socially introverted but I still do get energized by other people and have a stronger preference for Fe.

I vote against primary e5, because you don't seem to be reading into the nitty gritty of the enneagram system to figure out your type. They are called "the investigator" for a reason.

:smile: Girl, I just love you so much, thank you for your concern I really appreciate it..
 

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A cute 5? :wubbie: haha

Nah, you are not core 5 and that is it.

However with everything you said about yourself here and insisting on being intellectual I can imagine 7 integrating into 5. ENFJ 7 isn't illogical combination.
 

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Nah, you are not core 5 and that is it.

However with everything you said about yourself here and insisting on being intellectual I can imagine 7 integrating into 5. ENFJ 7 isn't illogical combination.

:thinking: Hmmm interesting, I'm open to all options right now, though still wish to build more e3
 

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:thinking: Hmmm interesting, I'm open to all options right now, though still wish to build more e3

Why don't you think you are e3? I could see you as a more extroverted, social, friendly version of me in certain ways. My ENFJ 3w2 is kind of like you to be honest...
 

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:thinking: Hmmm interesting, I'm open to all options right now, though still wish to build more e3

Learning skills is one thing, while finding your core type is another.

You claim to have intellectual tendencies, you claim to be a party maker and good entertainer, you act goofy when you lack arguments, you seem to hide your anxiety, you said "no rush" a few post back" ... all of that smells alot like a 7.
 

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Why don't you think you are e3? I could see you as a more extroverted, social, friendly version of me in certain ways.

Well.. As I said earlier, I am more motivated by fear and feeling secure by knowledge than motivated by goal and achievement, maybe it has to do with dramatic changes and circumstances during my life that I am afraid of many things, I try so hard to focus on certain goals but I get distracted by sudden unnecessary interest in something else and become obsessed of it, I didn't do well in college.. Maybe because I didn't get to master the field that I wanted, I mean for certain circumstances I had no choice in that, I don't know if I had the chance to study anything that I find myself passionate about, would then I found this (fire) of enthusiasm?! I really hope so :heart:

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Why don't you think you are e3? I could see you as a more extroverted, social, friendly version of me in certain ways.

Well.. As I said earlier, I am more motivated by fear and feeling secure by knowledge than motivated by goal and achievement, maybe it has to do with through dramatic changes and circumstances during my life that I am afraid of many things, I try so hard to focus on certain goals but I get distracted by sudden unnecessary interest in something else and become obsessed of it, I didn't do well in college.. Maybe because I didn't get to master the field that I wanted, I mean for certain circumstances I had no choice in that, I don't know if I had the chance to study anything that I find myself passionate about, would then I found this (fire) of enthusiasm?! I really hope so :heart:
 

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Why don't you think you are e3? I could see you as a more extroverted, social, friendly version of me in certain ways. My ENFJ 3w2 is kind of like you to be honest...

So far she was ENFJ 2w3, so that is minimal change. The problem is that she really doesn't sound elitistic enough for a 3. It is not impossible that she is 3 but there are alternatives.

As far as I am concerned she may still be 2w3 as well. But if she wants/insists on radical change I would go towards 7, 6 or 9.
 
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