[Type 7] The 7 Depression Thread

[Starry]

Yeah, I'm sure it's obvious to you... Keep hallucinating.

You seem scared. Poor guy.

 

[strychnine]

You seem scared. Poor guy.

Guy? Again, you're hallucinating.

I'm also not scared of NFs, per what I said before. Wristslitters, the lot of them. I'm surprised you're still alive!

 

[strychnine]

Actually it's interesting that [MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION] suggested ESFJ. Usually I'm typed ESFJ e2w3, this is the only forum where the ESFP typing has stuck for so long. I always thought of myself as an Fe user. Fi users love people, I hate people (especially NFs, yuck) - so it seemed more Fe. xSTPs also suck though, but mostly in Socionics (Beta STs - yuck). Basically any type with Ti needs to be exterminated.

 

[strychnine]

Sometimes I wonder what the point of typology is, since I can be a different type every day and be equally comfortable with them all.

 

[strychnine]

Actually this reminds of how I can relate to all the functions, when I first got into reading Jung that was a problem for me. I can relate to anything. Even asscracks.

 

[1487610420]

 

[fetus]

7 isn't about just smiling, never feeling sad, and thinking fluffy thoughts all the time. I think it's more about...fear of pain, and therefore avoiding it through stimulation. Running from it. Being a 7 is not a fluffy, joyful, cute thing.

Have you heard the song "Stay High" by Tove Lo? Look it up with the lyrics. I think that song is so clearly 7. She's occupying herself, staying high, "staying in my play pretend where the fun ain't got no end," trying to "keep you off my mind." It's a miserable song, but still sung in a semi-upbeat and energetic way. It's painful to hear. That's what I think 7 is. [MENTION=10383]strychnine[/MENTION]

I'm not a core 7, so anyone feel free to correct me, but this is my understanding.

 

[Dreamer]

Sometimes you just can't seem to run fast enough...

 

[Starry]

Sometimes you just can't seem to run fast enough...

"Those who do not look back...must run faster"

 

[Masokissed]

Even our threads can't keep on the depressing route.

 

[1487610420]

"Those who do not look back...must run faster"

 

[sonictard]

When I'm depressed, it reminds me of a movie Girl, Interrupted. Actually, I'm more manic.

 

[Dr Mobius]

"Those who do not look back...must run faster"

I keep meaning to come back to this thread and make a meaningful response; it'll happen at some point.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

So I thought about it and I might be slightly depressed, at least when thinking of the 7 type. So basically, especially being of the Sx variety, we're non-committal as fuck. At first I thought this might have something to do with maturity. In my 20s (I'm early 30s now)I bounced around through out several workplaces ( even with the benefit of 6 years of military experience) and I couldn't hold on to a relationship to save my life (mostly because I didn't want to after some point). Maybe getting a little older helped me stabilize as far as working goes and I'm willing to give committed relationships a real shot but I always end up unsatisfied and/or disinterested at some point. This is more true in relationships than work since my career is very satisfying full of possibilities. It's usually not the other person's fault. They are actually the same as when I met them ( when I perceived it as more exciting) but once the relationship is settled in then the luminosity of it tends to dim. It fucking sucks because I'm usually thinking "Oh crap, I'm starting to get disinterested AGAIN!" Then it sucks when I want to talk to a partner about it because they begin to feel shitty and lose confidence in themselves because I'm not excited about the relationship anymore and it usually spirals into disintegration from that point. Are 7s doomed to just never be really satisfied, enough to want to settle?

 

[RedAmazoneFriendZone]

So I thought about it and I might be slightly depressed, at least when thinking of the 7 type. So basically, especially being of the Sx variety, we're non-committal as fuck. At first I thought this might have something to do with maturity. In my 20s (I'm early 30s now)I bounced around through out several workplaces ( even with the benefit of 6 years of military experience) and I couldn't hold on to a relationship to save my life (mostly because I didn't want to after some point). Maybe getting a little older helped me stabilize as far as working goes and I'm willing to give committed relationships a real shot but I always end up unsatisfied and/or disinterested at some point. This is more true in relationships than work since my career is very satisfying full of possibilities. It's usually not the other person's fault. They are actually the same as when I met them ( when I perceived it as more exciting) but once the relationship is settled in then the luminosity of it tends to dim. It fucking sucks because I'm usually thinking "Oh crap, I'm starting to get disinterested AGAIN!" Then it sucks when I want to talk to a partner about it because they begin to feel shitty and lose confidence in themselves because I'm not excited about the relationship anymore and it usually spirals into disintegration from that point. Are 7s doomed to just never be really satisfied, enough to want to settle?

This is very interesting. I feel more or less the same. With some nuances of course as we each have a unic story and perception of the world around us.
That is not boredom that takes me suddenly. I think I have very (unconscious) high expectations (my type + my subtype + my personality + my story).
Add to that the fact that I have a very sweet daddy + the fact that he was absent when I was a child (I got used to live and be raised almost all by myself).
That is why my borderline traits come out when the guy tries to approach me in an emotional way too fast. That is very complicate to me because society and parents teach little boys
girls are touchy and love romanticism and so on...all that shit.... Yes well....of course it is true but not too FFFFFAAAAAstttt. Because then I just want to run away and be alone (relaxing disintegration)

I think it is a very 7 thing to feel non-satisfied. Add to that other problems and here you go to become a sexy serial lover or a Casanova all your life

I have actually tried to let something down in "my program" with men : 1st avoid to choose the ones who have HUGE abandonment wounds (not easy to see at first sight).
Unfortunately those tend to be really attracted to me...
Then when a relationship pisses me off I'm trying not to get immediately in touch with another man that I see much more attractive at first
(this is due to our pink glasses for what SEEMS more positive/fun/interesting/sexy/understanding....etc).

Actually I told my (new) lover I need a BIG BREAK. But I'm not successful yet with my many efforts as I'm already interested by a lovely black swimmer
Honestly I don't want a long term relationship with that new lover (and I'm pretty much sincere as he already knows it!).

As I said in other posts I even used to date girls because I had been so much fed up tooooo many timesssss.... But that was the same. And only sexual/sensual.
Not what I am looking for as a challenge.

The secret is : To look within oneself and find stability and happiness within oneself without thinking something new will be better.
For the moment I've found meditation and fantasies (that includes writing too) help me to focus on what I am and what I have and be glad with it.
And fortunately I have 2 big plans for the summer so I have a lot to think about to get ready (I know this is called rationalisation)
Having high expectations is, I think very much 7 or 8, to avoid suffering (and control).

Fortunately, what saves me from that whirlpool is that I can express all those feelings (fears) without being awkward and without feeling bad.
This way I avoid to reject the other person and consequently I avoid making him feel unfairly abandoned.
Thus I avoid to put myself into a dramatic situation (I let you imagine the crispy details........)

Also AND MAINLY I do respect much more my own feelings without "keeping the other person just for pleasure" or "to learn new things". If I feel nothing I have balls to be honest.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

This is very interesting. I feel more or less the same. With some nuances of course as we each have a unic story and perception of the world around us.
That is not boredom that takes me suddenly. I think I have very (unconscious) high expectations (my type + my subtype + my personality + my story).
Add to that the fact that I have a very sweet daddy + the fact that he was absent when I was a child (I got used to live and be raised almost all by myself).
That is why my borderline traits come out when the guy tries to approach me in an emotional way too fast. That is very complicate to me because society and parents teach little boys
girls are touchy and love romanticism and so on...all that shit.... Yes well....of course it is true but not too FFFFFAAAAAstttt. Because then I just want to run away and be alone (relaxing disintegration)

I think it is a very 7 thing to feel non-satisfied. Add to that other problems and here you go to become a sexy serial lover or a Casanova all your life

I have actually tried to let something down in "my program" with men : 1st avoid to choose the ones who have abandon wounds (not easy to see at the first sight).
Then when a relationship pisses me off I'm trying not to get immediately in touch with another man that I see much more attractive at first
(this is due to our pink glasses for what SEEM more positive/fun/interesting/sexy/understanding....etc).

Actually I told my (new) lover I need a BIG BREAK. But I'm not successful yet with my many efforts as I'm already interested by a lovely black swimmer
Honestly I don't want a long term relationship with that new lover (and I'm pretty much sincere as he already knows it!).

As I said in other posts I even used to date girls because I had been so much fed up tooooo many timesssss.... But that was the same. And only sexual/sensual.
Not what I am looking for as a challenge.

The secret is : Too look within oneself and find stability and happiness within ourselves without thinking something new will be better.
For the moment I've found meditation and fantasies (that includes writing too) help me to focus on what I am and what I have and be glad with it.
And fortunately I have 2 big plans for the summer so I have a lot to think about to get ready (I know this is called rationalisation)
Having high expectations is, I think very much 7 or 8, to avoid suffering (and control).

Fortunately, what saves me from that whirlpool is that I can express all those feelings (fears) without being awkward and without feeling bad.
This way I avoid to reject the other person and consequently to make him feel unfairly abandoned.

I don't know if I have 'high expectations' mainly because I never really defined my expectations. Something about expecting some girl to fit into a preconceived notion I've mentally constructed seems unappealing to put it mildly. It also seems boring.

I'm skeptical of fast romance but not completely dismissive of it either. A crazy early romantic supernova adds to the excitement and experience so long as one remembers to put it into perspective. An early explosion of passion is most likely not "love" but just crazy attraction in which chemicals are hijacking the brain which necessarily shuts down logic. But I can still enjoy it for what it is. I'm not one to deeply commit ( in this case I think its benefits me) so I think I naturally insulate myself from potential painful disintegration.

I think as along as I maintain imagination I'll never be satisfied because part of the satisfaction is the imagination process itself and not so much achieving what you imagine. I just wish my mind can STOP getting disinterested in otherwise really good matches for me. Maybe its that gluttony thing? I consume so much of their novelty and excitement that I don't defer any so that I can enjoy it later ( sort of like eating your crop seed). This is where I think being a 7 sucks because everything always feels fleeting to some degree.

I do look in myself and I'm satisfied and happy with who I am but I don't think I could never quench the thirst for novelty and experiencing new scenarios. To do so would be to deny my own nature.

 

[RedAmazoneFriendZone]

There is probably a difference too between ENTP and ESFP 7.

Even if...I used to think fantasy is better than reality. Which I don't think is true today for many reasons I have experienced(...).
Moreover Fantasy is very easy whereas creating the reality you wanna be in is a challenge, for me as well as others.
If they don't like my challenges then

Never ever deny your own nature as our very first duty is to accept it.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

Yeah big differences between ESFP and ENTP 7s ( though if they are the same enneatype I could see more similarities). For one ESFPs are much more focused on present reality than ENTPs. We suffer from being scatter-brained and useless abstraction while ESFPs seem more direct and to the point. I think ESFPs crave new experiences more than new ideas which is opposite for the ENTP.

I think both suffer with establishing long term commitments though. I dated an ESFP 7 a few years ago (amazingly it lasted almost 2 years) but we just as quickly became strangers as we became enamored with one and other.

 

[Forever]

I relate to 7 a lot. does that mean I am in anyway cool being a person who wants new Pokemon games all the time even if they're meaningless now to me and watching and watching tv series so I can know that was "the cool series" and oh crap I love it when I got Bose quiet comfort black headphones and I lost the black cable to it somehow so I bought the blue cable that goes to the white version of the headphones and people just stare at with the most "who are you" look, and I tell them I'm creative and know I'm a special snowflake from choices I only come to think of.

Idk feeling like a 9 is weird, I feel too freaking proud to be a 9.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

I relate to 7 a lot. does that mean I am in anyway cool being a person who wants new Pokemon games all the time even if they're meaningless now to me and watching and watching tv series so I can know that was "the cool series" and oh crap I love it when I got Bose quiet comfort black headphones and I lost the black cable to it somehow so I bought the blue cable that goes to the white version of the headphones and people just stare at with the most "who are you" look, and I tell them I'm creative and know I'm a special snowflake from choices I only come to think of.

Idk feeling like a 9 is weird, I feel too freaking proud to be a 9.

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