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[Ne] Sexy People! - Describe Ne as you Experience It!

Hawthorne

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I am curious about the differences between Fi-flavored Ne and Ti-flavored Ne.

I made a SuperSeriousâ„¢ post once about my POV on Ne. Few months ago? I will try to look for it later, doctor it up if necessary, and share with the class.
 

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[MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION]: nope..I didn't get a summons, tnx for the rep. Guess I should report that in the feedback section as well.

For me Ne is what makes me have a constant stream of multiple, semi-random thoughts running through my head all the time (sometimes I even scare myself, thinking that one day I could lose my marbles).

It allows me to connect between seemingly disparaging things and to be able to follow virtually any topic of conversation and not come across as stupid. I do this because I am able to translate any subject into a common language (my own, I guess) and I see similarities in the modus operandus of things, of the universe, outside of social norms or strict concepts. I work outside of status quo and try to observe what 'is' without restricted definitions or concepts.
This is totally an automatic process that I do not control. I wake up in the morning and my head starts running and giving me an overflow of images, which is inspiring and prompts me into searching for meaning and having a positive outlook on the world and my day.

A cool thing about Ne and this definition of a common language outside of the limitations of already pre-defined concepts is that I am pretty good with languages. Any sort of language, be it spoken language, programming, music or mathematics. I naturally see connections between things and use that, as a messenger. Also for this reason I am particularly interested in people, in communicating, in the diversity of cultures and human experiences. And I see myself as a messenger, a translater. I am fundamentally continuously curious about the world and all the possibilities it holds.

Naturally, a draw back is that I have difficulty making decisions, as I feel I am limiting myself, and so I tend to only make a choice after having explored all options. It has led me to change cities, appartments, relationships, jobs, many times. Seemingly paradoxically, but in reality not, it has also led me to keep myself in cities, appartments, relationships, jobs, long after I started being unhappy, since Ne always makes me think that there is a possibility for improvement of that I am not seeing all the different perspectives of a situation.

Pretty much this. Completely relate to the language and translator-thing. Hell, it's what I have my Masters in. And to me, psychology is the sister of that. It's like translating people/animals for either themselves or for others and exceedingly useful in building bridges between two parties.

Personally, though, I suck at math though coz I cannot be bothered to keep track of which number went where before I fall asleep to it :doh:

But, given a motivated and tenacious teacher or a concrete need for me knowing this stuff, I'm perfectly capable of absorbing the needed information fast, provided I get a clear oversight.

The indecision bit is equally true - I'm only now starting to get a crude handle on that with TeSi going: ya know what, you know what you like by now (Fi), and what your priorities are. Fun as the rest is to explore, let's go a little deeper on what we already know so we can get a deeper understanding.

Right before that happened, I remember feeling lost, adrift at sea and like I'd never reach land. As pretty as the sea was, and as fun as it was to see that watery world and sail all over, I was starting to feel...almost unhinged. I actually got bored with chasing the shiny at that moment as it never really...lead anywhere. Yay, another treasure. Whoopie-fucking-doo. And that's when I decided to actually stop roaming and settle down a bit. I guess I just got old :p

However, it worked. Once I did that, wouldn't you know it, that drive to understand and know came right back - just now it was focused on fine-tuning my understanding and roaming *within* a specific topic. These days, my focus is pretty much down to 4-7 topics and I can see myself being satiated with that the rest of my life. Scary, I know :D

Lastly, I wanted to touch on the way I actually wield Ne in my life.

Personally, I mostly use my Ne in three ways:

1) Getting inspired by noticing random things in the world and going 'What if', 'What would it be like if' and 'Why?' (I drove my SJ mom NUTS with the 'why?' question as a kid - she likes to say she went through a looooot of saliva, explaining stuff to me :D

2) Information high way: This is where the rubber meets the road - it is my full-on absorption mode on any topic that has piqued my interest. My INTJ has more than once considered using me as a researcher when he needs intel on a topic because I chase shit down so enthusiastically - like a dog fetching a chew toy.

3) Entertainment mode - either for myself or others, or both. This one is commonly known as The Silly Switch.

The idea is to 'abuse' Ne to find the most ridiculous associations possible, in order to then spin them off into innuendo, irony (god, I love irony) and even sarcasm (NTJs have rubbed off on me, there :D). Add to that an over-the-top animated way of story-telling to amp up the hilarity and we're off :D
 

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[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION] tagged me and I feel like I should participate but IDK what to say so I'll just watch and add stuff later if I think of anything. :sadbanana:
 

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Ne to me is like when you're talking to someone and everything you say makes you think of 100 asides and you end up talking forever about a chain of loosely related topics. On a good day, you can bring it all back around and tie it all in to the original thing with a little poof of smoke and a ta-da!
 

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Ne to me is like when you're talking to someone and everything you say makes you think of 100 asides and you end up talking forever about a chain of loosely related topics. On a good day, you can bring it all back around and tie it all in to the original thing with a little poof of smoke and a ta-da!

ooh...you know those people that talk forever and while they're talking you're thinking of a million things to say back but they never shut up and then when they do you look at them and you don't know what to say anymore because you had to be silent all the time while you had a million thoughts flowing?
 

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ooh...you know those people that talk forever and while they're talking you're thinking of a million things to say back but they never shut up and then when they do you look at them and you don't know what to say anymore because you had to be silent all the time while you had a million thoughts flowing?

Oh gosh. So brutal. I feel like if only I could interrupt we could really get a good convo going. Or when you're sitting there thinking and someone asks you what you're thinking about and you don't even know where to start cuz you're like a thousand steps removed from the original thought already but somehow you try to still convey the common theme by jumping around and trying to explain the connections but really you just sound crazy?
 

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feels weird, man.

Some Guy said:
As a probable bearer of Ne, I do not personally see it as random even though I understand why it might seem that way from the outside looking in.

Ne, regardless of how favored a process it is, is working in tandem with Si. Its divergence is born from its relational attitude (and vice versa for Si). It's nature is possible only because of the loose perception of actual Objects that allows it to easily associate them with each other. The webbing of concepts happens automatically, such that the mentioning of one thing inadvertently brings related ones into awareness. Even so, the relationship can usually be traced if the person cares enough to try.

The "problem" is that because the connections are inherently subjective, the connections will likely only make sense to that particular person or to people who associate the same Objects in similar ways. On the occasions where the connections diverge far enough from the norm, it becomes "outside of the box"-style thinking.

As far as I'm concerned, that's all there is to Ne. It's not inherently hyperactive, goofy, creative, neurotic, spontaneous, zany, odd, clever, witty, or whatever other magical and/or quirky baggage people like to throw on it.
 

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I don't know how i experience ne, i wish i did, though i'm not completely sure i even have ne in my top two functions, it took me years to figure out how i use fi so i do not know. i'll think but don't expect an answer.
 

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For me...Ne is kinda like something that makes me especially afraid of [MENTION=18819]five sounds[/MENTION] avatar.
 

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[MENTION=17131]Chanaynay[/MENTION] tagged me and I feel like I should participate but IDK what to say so I'll just watch and add stuff later if I think of anything. :sadbanana:

I swear to god I tagged you too (just want you to know that in an off-topic kind of Ne way because this was stressing me out last night. the tagging system was glitching for me and I actually asked Chan to help me out.)
 

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I always thought it was best to contrast it with Se, because a lot more people have Se.

So Se is about connections and possibilities of the concrete variety (the five senses), being the concrete version of the Perceiver functions. It's rapid associative functioning regarding physical perception, the actual five sense, and mental perception, the imaginary five senses. It rapidly engages in tangential thinking and pattern spotting, often uncontrollably, has very little "overarching patterns" to what it's doing. When it's perceiving imagination it tends to be all over the place, but with the external would it tends to be pretty reigned in since that's a lot more stable.

Ne is the conceptual/abstract version of Se. It doesn't perceive vision, sound or sensation like Se, but concepts and other "intuitive" thinking. It'll naturally scan for conceptual differences and possibilities. That actually makes it less tangential and rapid than Se, as there's a lot less possibility-space to explore than what Se can get its claws on.

In my experience Ne is rather painful. It's a very withdrawn function, being iNtuition, and makes the immediate environment affect me a lot less, which makes things less painful (and pleasurable), but it's also adverse to conclusions and commitments. I see Se doms and auxs struggle with starting lots of things and then just abandoning them when Se has found something more interesting to think about, but myself and other Ne doms and auxs struggle to start things, because deciding on a concept is generally the end of the process for Ne, but the beginning of the process for reality. It'll either never conclude on a concept, or immediately lose interest once it has. (both Se and Ne people seem to get over these with a bit of practice)

It's hard to describe the internal experience of such an abstract function. One of the most pronounced things I noticed is Ne people tend to have a lot less interest in imagination and fantasy, at least after the concepts have been perceived, and it resembles other psychological reasons for not caring about that stuff (like Si). This, combined with their excitement and mental animation in the realm of abstract thought, leads to their most unique behaviors. They'll go on and on about stuff without ever talking about something you can imagine, but using those imaginable things as a way of talking about what they are really interested in.
 

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Is this thread for ANYONE sexy to post?

are you sexy?

i ask because your only as sexy as you feel

btw i think saying rawly sexual will make you feel extra sexy. it's like dirty in a good way.
 

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I am curious about the differences between Fi-flavored Ne and Ti-flavored Ne.

I made a SuperSeriousâ„¢ post once about my POV on Ne. Few months ago? I will try to look for it later, doctor it up if necessary, and share with the class.



I would be interested in this as well...hearing from others on this. Because I've actually tried to get a sense of this myself...and at least for me...aside from a slightly different focus when it comes to trademark usage...I personally don't notice any difference. The only *difference* I experience is you can tell when Fi starts to make tert and inferior Fe anxious.
 

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Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

^that is the one my family uses although I think I have heard "Does a bear shit in the woods?" tossed around too...

depends on what your opinion on funny is.
 
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