Ok. I'm posting to hold my place. I'll come back in a week or so. Busy with work. But I would be willing to place bets that existence is an INFJ. Not an ISTP, not an ISTJ. Not a T at all. The more I think about it, re-read posts, etc. The more I am solid in that observation and I will lay my case when I come back.
Please don't take offense [MENTION=26684]existence[/MENTION] that I'm making assumptions about you - ultimately you know you but I think after my next post here maybe you will be able to see where I'm coming from.
Why would I take offense that you are trying to type me? I only take offense if you are not verifying assumptions that are unfairly assumed. Such as the troll idea.
Thanks for the input but I disagree on INFJ. That's one of the options I most clearly eliminated already as I have low Fe. The only ones not eliminated are ISTP and ISTJ and unfortunately it looks like I would have to put up with too many different interpretations on MBTI if I were to stick with any one of these options.
The solution without going into details right now - but I'm perfectly willing to do so if you want me to - is a compromise as far as I'm willing to stay with MBTI. Dichotomy-wise, I would be ISTJ. Function-wise I would be Ti-dom with S aux - with some Ni going on as well, yes.
I am ok with you laying out your reasoning though. I'm always willing to hear other people's thoughts. So yeah, when you are back, do go into detail. I'm especially interested in where you see strong Fe in me.
Tertiary Ti (IXFJ): I am interested in learning how to make things run more smoothly and efficiently. Please be as clear and concise in your explanation as possible, so the message isn’t lost in theatricality. I’m sorry, but I see a logical inconsistency in the statement you just made; may I point it out to you so we can talk about it? I really love thinking about my ideas (Ni) and experiences (Si), and analyzing them to see what meaning they hold for me, and why. I’m good at putting a name to what is happening around me.
Where do you see me asking that messages shouldn't be lost in theatricality?
Yes, I do like clear precise explanations but that is not specific to tertiary Ti. Here in the thread I'm asking for data that I will then process myself and I'm also asking others to share their opinions but I will decide myself on what I think in the end. I do also note logical inconsistencies, again not specific to tertiary Ti.
Where do you see me discussing meaning in that fashion, honestly?
The questions are rhetorical questions if that's not clear.
To go into more details, bolding the parts where I relate to different versions of Ti and Ni:
Ti dom:
I don’t need to use my emotions to fix this problem, thanks. I know how this machine works. Let me take it apart and put it back together for you. That doesn’t seem logical. The facts of the situation are unimportant; we can solve this, though it might seem impossible. There is a way around every problem. I can give you a two word answer to your question, and those two words will solve everything. The fewer words used, the better. Most explanations are too long-winded and technical, and could easily be simplified. Let me hear the idea or new data; I’m going to analyze and criticize it, and if it doesn’t work, I’m going to throw it out. Come on, you know my impartiality is sexy. Have you ever seen me overreact to anything? No!
Ti aux:
Auxiliary Ti (EXTP): Hmm, give me a second… okay, I know what to do. I know how this works and how to fix it. I just analyzed it from six different angles in my head and feel comfortable with diving right in. I can take this situation or problem apart and reassemble it. That sounds illogical, so I’m going to ignore it. If I have time, I’ll argue with it. Look, cut the crap and get to the point. THIS is the problem and THIS is how we fix it. Did you enjoy my three word answer? It really annoys me when people take too long to explain something, because it’s easy for me to sum it up in a few words. No, I understand the system, I have it, let’s start in on it and get things done! Hop to it! Chop chop!
Ti tert:
I am interested in learning how to make things run more smoothly and efficiently. Please be as clear and concise in your explanation as possible, so the message isn’t lost in theatricality. I’m sorry, but I see a logical inconsistency in the statement you just made; may I point it out to you so we can talk about it? I really love thinking about my ideas (Ni) and experiences (Si), and analyzing them to see what meaning they hold for me, and why. I’m good at putting a name to what is happening around me.
Ni dom:
No, I haven’t learned this before. I just know how to do it*, that’s all. Let me guess what that means… am I right? Yes! I knew it! You can’t ask me to stop thinking about the future; I think about it all the time! That person is going to do that, and this will happen as a result. I am not wrong. You wait and see. (Told you!) I don’t like this, it didn’t happen the way I anticipated it would! No, I don’t want to change my plan at the last minute! How can I fix this? Where did I go wrong? I have a creative way to explain this process to you! Interpreting symbolism comes easily to me. Visualizing my goals, and my future, makes me happy and energizes me! I can see where I want to be, and where I am, and come up with each step necessary to reach my dreams.
Ni tert:
I love the silence. It allows me to think about my future, and what I want to accomplish. I like to come up with new ways of doing or seeing things. Don’t tell anyone, but I like symbolism, archetypes, and mysteries. I find them interesting. I sometimes feel like I know what is going to happen, before it happens… and I’m usually right. I don’t know how I knew that about you; I just did. I can visualize a goal, and won’t stop until I turn it into a reality. I trust my insights more in my creativity than in life, but am learning to use my random moments of foreknowledge to create long-term goals.
*: Is only true if it's logical as well.