OVERTHINKING

[Captain_Invincible]

Is overthinking linked to low Ti/Te? Like, when you overthink something simple using your 'logic' for a long time and try to make a logical mountain out of a molehill or is overthinking even related to low Ne/Ni also?

 

[Tilt]

I would be inclined to say overthinking has more to do with a propensity towards anxiety, stress, hypersensitivity to certain things (fears, people pleasing) and/or just having a hyperactive mind (going a 100 mi/hr).

 

[Captain_Invincible]

I would be inclined to say overthinking has more to do with a propensity towards anxiety, stress, hypersensitivity to certain things (fears, people pleasing) and/or just having a hyperactive mind (going a 100 mi/hr).

Thanks.

The reason I ask this is because I heard somewhere that low thinking types in a grip/loop tend to overthink things in their heads, which are simple in real terms.

I guess ADHD would have a role to play within this, depending on how much that person can tightly manage their condition.

And also I agree with your anxiety point, but would like to expand on it:

Getting into loops can affect your mental state, and make you anxious/overthink. Let's say an ESxP is in the grip of Inferior Ni.

They are going to be very anxious and overthinking the worst case scenario (let's say they are imaging something bad is gonna happen in the future- they are having constant visions of X happening, though it never will.)

They are completely detatched from their usual cool-headed, confident, improvising persona. They are being unrealistic and anxious and freaking out about nothing. They are a totally different version of themselves. They are the themselves in an alternate reality.

To me, this song sums it up well:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vvuOw8Z0Pwg

For me, this song tells a story of disintegration for an ESxP:

The Se user knows that their Ni is trying to explode (from a state of stress/overthinking/anxiety etc), yet they try and distract themselves and cover it up using a 'party inside their mind' (a state of denial, just having fun). The harder they try to distract themselves, the more and more the Ni tries to 'spoil the fun'. The Ni 'isn't invited' to the Se's fun fiesta.

Eventually, the Ni starts to crash the party, take over their psyche and try to convince them to 'look into the future', and try to tempt them to 'find our what happens next' (the made up scenario the Ni has created). This makes the Se very anxious, and want to collapse. The Se doesn't want to 'find out the future' because it thinks that it's the 'worst case scenario' about to happen (when in reality it isn't).

Then the Se wants to override the Ni 'by partying as hard as it can', and have a good time, and kick the Ni out. It wants the other functions to party with it, but they can't because of Ni trying to overwhelm them. The Ni is convincing the Se that 'they are going to die, and it's the end of the world' because that is how the Se interprets this negative Ni as telling it. It is the gatecrasher.

The Ni is looking to blame another function for the chaos its causing; it's trying to reflect the consequences of Se's long reign, but it has nowhere to go in this 'party' to reflect, so it is getting frustrated amist the chaos and running around like a bull in a china shop. The Se however, is getting rowdier and rowdier, trying super hard to push Ni out.

The Se is telling the other functions to enjoy the party because Ni is gonna 'blow it up' (if you like-worst case scenario-last party). Ni has convinced Se that its there to do chaos, when it isn't necesarily (being the most understood function, Se is not happy with it here at the party).

Ni is now yelling for Se to surrender and 'look into the future' and prove that it's not that bad. But amidst the stress and chaos, everything has been lost in translation. Ni is fighting for total control and Se is slipping away and letting this unfamiliar state take total control. It doesn't trust it. Se becomes super anxious and Ni is now spurting out crap.

The Ni could take over for weeks, months, days or years, depending on how severely distressed Se is. Ti or Fi are now not here to try and find a solution, and Fe and Te are not there to help Se extrovert that solution. They are hiding from Ni's chaos as the music plays. Se tries to fight Ni, but is overshadowed by the stress the gatecrashing has caused.

The Se will continue to fight Ni, until Ni gets tired of the chaos, and Fi/Ti can find a way in, through the tiring. Eventually, they will solve ths problem, until Te/Fe can engage and whip Ni into shape and things calm down completely. This allows Se to regain its posistion as king/queen of the functional realm.

(Please don't ask where all this came from. I dunno, but hey. There's my analogy of functions using a Mika song )

 

[Tilt]

What you say makes sense but if one wants to go down a theory-based explanation, one could easily make an argument for each type having its own brand of "overthinking".

Many introverted thinkers will tend to be e5 (leaning toward a fear of not knowing enough knowledge). They can overthink the semantics and intricacies to the point where the overall point gets lost... until they feel that they have mastered it enough for their comfort.... It can look like a overcomplication/overthinking to other types.

Oops, instead of "hyperactive mind" in relation to ADHD, I meant an "overactive mind" in the most general sense.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

What you say makes sense but if one wants to go down a theory-based explanation, one could easily make an argument for each type having its own brand of "overthinking".

Many introverted thinkers will tend to be e5 (leaning toward a fear of not knowing enough knowledge). They can overthink the semantics and intricacies to the point where the overall point gets lost... until they feel that they have mastered it enough for their comfort.... It can look like a overcomplication/overthinking to other types.

Oops, instead of "hyperactive mind" in relation to ADHD, I meant an "overactive mind" in the most general sense.

Yes. I notice that a lot of E5s seem to go down the "knowledge is power" root. Knowledge is power, yes, but you need the relevant knowledge for what you're doing. Not just random shit that has no basis towards the stuff you're. Knowing the capital of Italy is great for pop quizzes, but it won't help you jumpstart your dead car in the middle of Ireland.

I prefer not to overthink things. The less I think, the more I actually know. The more I clear my mind, the more things come to me. The more I let my mind flow, the easier life is. I think overanalysis in certain situations sets you back a lot more. You know?

I define overthinking as over thinking. To me it is exactly what it says it is. Those who overthink need to balance their thinking with another function, and let it all go.

 

[Tilt]

That's a really cool way to look at it. Overthinking can be symptomatic of people using "intellectization" as a defense mechanism. If they can anticipate the potential outcomes and reactionns, then they can have a better sense of whatever is going to happen next and feel more secure. It can be a control thing or a reaction to a fear of the unknown.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

That's a really cool way to look at it. Overthinking can be symptomatic of people using "intellectization" as a defense mechanism. If they can anticipate the potential outcomes and reactionns, then they can have a better sense of whatever is going to happen next and feel more secure. It can be a control thing or a reaction to a fear of the unknown.

BuI also think that overthinking can end up being an extreme reaction to the unknown, if it's not done within context. If you are thinking of something within a sequential chain of events [a number chain of events], and think of something ridiculous [say the chain is 6, 13, 20, 27 _ - you say 49 when the actual next number is 34- you're way off] and you think it and focus on that, instead of what is to come next, then that's when things end up screwed and stressing you.

 

[Bush]

Low? Nah, man. I'd venture to say that trying to build all-encompassing mental models and stuff could drive someone crazy. Gotta account for everything!

 

[Captain_Invincible]

Low? Nah, man. I'd venture to say that trying to build all-encompassing mental models and stuff could drive someone crazy. Gotta account for everything!

I can't imagine using Ne-Ti all the time. Or Ne-Fi. It must be tiring extroverting many ideas and categorizing them using Ji to fit your own subjective systems. Even as a dominant set, with pure control over it, and knowing what you're doing. I know a suspected ENFP, and they are always 100% on the go, full steam ahead with that Ne.

Also would that not drive one crazy after a while if they were in a loop? Some sort of unfamiliar pattern? Say an ESFJ or ESTJ? Fe-Ne/Te-Ne loop? Or even someone developing their Inferior function (as in the case of an ISxJ- Inferior Ne, or ESxP- Inferior Ni)?

 

[strychnine]

I can't imagine using Ne-Ti all the time. Or Ne-Fi. It must be tiring extroverting many ideas and categorizing them using Ji to fit your own subjective systems. Even as a dominant set, with pure control over it, and knowing what you're doing. I know a suspected ENFP, and they are always 100% on the go, full steam ahead with that Ne.

It's energizing. Problem is aux Ji cannot keep up with dom Pe most of the time. Of course it won't be if it's not your dom/aux, but you're talking about types where it is. Not really comparable to ISxJ and ESxP types who are inferior intuitives. Looping is bad all around
I have cocaine levels of energy (without the cocaine) and go pretty much 1000 mph from when I wake up to when I go to bed, AND I don't sleep enough. But I think that's just ExxP problems.

 

[Bush]

I can't imagine using Ne-Ti all the time. Or Ne-Fi. It must be tiring extroverting many ideas and categorizing them using Ji to fit your own subjective systems.

My first thought is -- you don't have to do this all the time. Though it comes kinda naturally, you will go insane if you try to get a firm handle on every thought you have, yeah.

Subject to subject to subject to subject. There's a balance to be struck between "Oh God, I have to account for all of this!?" and "Yeah. There sure are a lot of things involved. Yes, it involves things. I'm gonna do it anyway."

Why is a balance necessary? Why would one go insane otherwise? Well,

Problem is aux Ji cannot keep up with dom Pe most of the time.

this.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

It's energizing. Problem is aux Ji cannot keep up with dom Pe most of the time. Of course it won't be if it's not your dom/aux, but you're talking about types where it is. Not really comparable to ISxJ and ESxP types who are inferior intuitives. Looping is bad all around
I have cocaine levels of energy (without the cocaine) and go pretty much 1000 mph from when I wake up to when I go to bed, AND I don't sleep enough. But I think that's just ExxP problems. [emoji14]

Yeah, personally I am some sort of E. I actually dunno if I use Pe or Je. Well, I find Ji very difficult to use and very tiring. I don't really get Ti/Fi. I don't really relate to them.

I have piles of energy, but I enjoy disclosure. I enjoy doing things for a reason, more than doing things spontaneously. Things need to have a purpose for me, an end product.

I don't know if this is enneagram, or developentally orientated or what.

My first thought is -- you don't have to do this all the time. Though it comes kinda naturally, you will go insane if you try to get a firm handle on every thought you have, yeah.

Subject to subject to subject to subject. There's a balance to be struck between "Oh God, I have to account for all of this!?" and "Yeah. There sure are a lot of things involved. Yes, it involves things. I'm gonna do it anyway."

Why is a balance necessary? Why would one go insane otherwise? Well,this.

Yeah, I think overthinking kills the wonder of life sometimes, and I also think you have to find your comfort zone, but push it a little, but not to the point of stress. Not too far. Not too slow.

 

[strychnine]

My first thought is -- you don't have to do this all the time. Though it comes kinda naturally, you will go insane if you try to get a firm handle on every thought you have, yeah.

Subject to subject to subject to subject. There's a balance to be struck between "Oh God, I have to account for all of this!?" and "Yeah. There sure are a lot of things involved. Yes, it involves things. I'm gonna do it anyway."

Why is a balance necessary? Why would one go insane otherwise? Well,this.

Yeah. I feel like I am going insane sometimes tbh. Trying to keep up with myself. Of course, I can't. I'm almost obsessive about it, not sure why, if this is type related or maybe enneagram? I'm some kind of 7 & 1 hybrid (71[4?3?] tritype). But I'm quite obsessive about trying to get a handle on every thought I have, on aligning/integrating every thought (or as many as possible) into my systems/theories/concepts/framework, reconciling everything with everything else... I want the most thorough, truthful, perfect, and all-encompassing theories and I cannot stop. The truth is, I would need a week to judge/fit an hour's worth of ideas. It's like I'm drowning in a sea of them, instead of floating on clouds of them like I used to. I can never keep up.

I've been deliberately "shutting the world away" so that I can work through existing thoughts and ideas...but even then, I keep springboarding off existing ideas onto new ones, although it is better. I would be in the worst Ti-Pi loop if I were IxTP; it's a good thing I can't shut the world away as completely as they can. My latest thing is regurgitating and re-analyzing the same information/ideas; I normally analyze new information, but I feel stuck like this. (It almost feels like a Ti-Si loop tbh...but I'm pretty sure I'm ExTP, not IxTP.)

I really need to let the ideas go as easily as I get them. I need balance. At least I have a strong auxiliary Ji (Ti) to show for all this.

And, can someone please tell me, does what I'm describing sound more like Ne or Se? You can go to my type-me thread (linked in signature) or rep me. Thx.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

You're taking this too seriously...

Yeah. I feel like I am going insane sometimes tbh. Trying to keep up with myself. Of course, I can't. I'm almost obsessive about it, not sure why, if this is type related or maybe enneagram? I'm some kind of 7 & 1 hybrid (71[4?3?] tritype). But I'm quite obsessive about trying to get a handle on every thought I have, on aligning/integrating every thought (or as many as possible) into my systems/theories/concepts/framework, reconciling everything with everything else... I want the most thorough, truthful, perfect, and all-encompassing theories and I cannot stop. The truth is, I would need a week to judge/fit an hour's worth of ideas. It's like I'm drowning in a sea of them, instead of floating on clouds of them like I used to. I can never keep up.

I've been deliberately "shutting the world away" so that I can work through existing thoughts and ideas...but even then, I keep springboarding off existing ideas onto new ones, although it is better. I would be in the worst Ti-Pi loop if I were IxTP; it's a good thing I can't shut the world away as completely as they can. My latest thing is regurgitating and re-analyzing the same information/ideas; I normally analyze new information, but I feel stuck like this. (It almost feels like a Ti-Si loop tbh...but I'm pretty sure I'm ExTP, not IxTP.)

I really need to let the ideas go as easily as I get them. I need balance. At least I have a strong auxiliary Ji (Ti) to show for all this.

And, can someone please tell me, does what I'm describing sound more like Ne or Se? You can go to my type-me thread (linked in signature) or rep me. Thx.

I think that the problem is in finding yourself, and your type. I think that you are genuinely over thinking finding your type. To be honest, I've playing this typology game for over a year now, and I still have no idea of my actual closest fit. I started off as ENTP from a basic online test, and have since discovered a world of various resources from different sites, and have had a lot of opinions on my type. Now, I can confirm that I am not an xNxP (Or xSxJ for that matter at least). Everyday, I am coming closer and closer to narrowing my type down to my best fit; my mission here is to find the best fit for my type in enneagram, socionics and MBTI. So far, I have nailed Socionics. I am a Beta there, undoubtedly.

If we translate Beta across into MBTI in its purest form, that leaves the MBTI types ISTP, INFJ, ESTP and ENFJ open for debate. I know that I lead with an Extroverted function, so that leaves either Fe or Se. (Which gives us ESTP/ENFJ, which sometimes ends up as a deadly Se-Fe/Fe-Se loop for either type, especially when it develops as their Tertiary Function and knocks the Auxiliary out of play for a while, thus creating the Dom-Tert loops that you mentioned above).

As for enneagram. If you believe that you are an enneagram 7, then the 7 goes to a one-like state under stress, which can create the illusion of appearing like a one, in the same sense than an 8 under stress becomes like an unhealthy 5. (You should learn what each enneagram type degrades to under stress, which I think could be one of your issues. Here are some web pages which I think you may find useful: Enneagram: The Arrows and the Levels , Enneagram: How the System Works and The Levels of Development Within the Enneagram-- there are a few links to get you started-- but you can find plenty more from Google Searching on the Enneagram).

As for MBTI, I think that the stress caused from your overthinking is making you clueless about your type. For now, I think that you should just sit back, relax, enjoy the ride and find out as much information as you can about the system before you try and stress yourself over typing. Judging from what I am reading above about your spurting of ideas/theories etc, you may very well be looping or developing functions. As for it being Ne/Se, it may well be another function that you aren't so familiar with, but are actually trying to develop.

If you where in a Ti-Si loop, you could be either an INTP/ISFJ looping. If you are entirely convinced that you are in a loop, I believe that this page which describes all the loops will help you figure out which loop you may be in, and will help you narrow your types down to two (or four), if you're really this desperate to find out your type: Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders

I wish you the best of luck in your quest my friend, and if you have any questions/queries etc. or just want to chat, you can always come to one of my threads or leave me a personal message

 

[strychnine]

I think that the problem is in finding yourself, and your type. I think that you are genuinely over thinking finding your type.

The "overthinking" I described in my previous post is not regarding type.

To be honest, I've playing this typology game for over a year now,

5 years and counting here.

and I still have no idea of my actual closest fit. I started off as ENTP from a basic online test,

And I took the official MBTI about 5 years ago and tested INTJ, with a weak IJ and strong NT. Tests are useless.

and have since discovered a world of various resources from different sites, and have had a lot of opinions on my type. Now, I can confirm that I am not an xNxP (Or xSxJ for that matter at least). Everyday, I am coming closer and closer to narrowing my type down to my best fit; my mission here is to find the best fit for my type in enneagram, socionics and MBTI. So far, I have nailed Socionics. I am a Beta there, undoubtedly.

Good for you

If we translate Beta across into MBTI in its purest form, that leaves the MBTI types ISTP, INFJ, ESTP and ENFJ open for debate. I know that I lead with an Extroverted function, so that leaves either Fe or Se. (Which gives us ESTP/ENFJ, which sometimes ends up as a deadly Se-Fe/Fe-Se loop for either type, especially when it develops as their Tertiary Function and knocks the Auxiliary out of play for a while, thus creating the Dom-Tert loops that you mentioned above).

Not sure why you're rehashing this; I already responded to your type thread.

As for enneagram. If you believe that you are an enneagram 7, then the 7 goes to a one-like state under stress, which can create the illusion of appearing like a one, in the same sense than an 8 under stress becomes like an unhealthy 5. (You should learn what each enneagram type degrades to under stress, which I think could be one of your issues. Here are some web pages which I think you may find useful: Enneagram: The Arrows and the Levels , Enneagram: How the System Works and The Levels of Development Within the Enneagram-- there are a few links to get you started-- but you can find plenty more from Google Searching on the Enneagram).

I'm well aware of dis/integration and other basic enneagram concepts. The core motivations of type 1 fit me almost as well as those of type 7. I'm not disintegrating; to the contrary, I often feel very 5ish, which is 7's integration point.

As for MBTI, I think that the stress caused from your overthinking is making you clueless about your type. For now, I think that you should just sit back, relax, enjoy the ride and find out as much information as you can about the system before you try and stress yourself over typing.

And I think that you should refrain from telling me what to do, but hey, apparently we can't always get what we want.

I've read Jung, Quenk, Berens, Lenore and others; I'm not new to this.

Judging from what I am reading above about your spurting of ideas/theories etc, you may very well be looping or developing functions. As for it being Ne/Se, it may well be another function that you aren't so familiar with, but are actually trying to develop.

Or it could be Ne or Se, both of which are well known for constantly spurting ideas, especially in the dominant form. I've been spurting ideas all my life.

If you where in a Ti-Si loop, you could be either an INTP/ISFJ looping. If you are entirely convinced that you are in a loop, I believe that this page which describes all the loops will help you figure out which loop you may be in, and will help you narrow your types down to two (or four), if you're really this desperate to find out your type: Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders

I've read that article multiple times. I hope your knowledge of loops isn't limited to that article as it's quite oversimplified (though not inaccurate).

I wish you the best of luck in your quest my friend, and if you have any questions/queries etc. or just want to chat, you can always come to one of my threads or leave me a personal message

You seem to have missed the point of my previous post: that auxiliary Ji cannot keep up with dominant Pe despite an EP's best efforts. You also continue to use the word "overthinking" to describe what is merely normal thinking to Ji. I think we're experiencing an interesting disconnect:

--I'm trying to solve a multifaceted, interesting technical problem that has a technically correct solution, which you seem to have interpreted as an emotional problem requiring of emotional support. So your response is entirely unhelpful and honestly annoying.

--Your response here is what I'd consider overfeeling (I'm a tertiary feeler). You seem more concerned about my possible emotional state(s) than you are with helping me solve my technical problem. Your approach here is feeling-focused and screams Fe to me. Again, this isn't bad and it actually slightly warms my cold TP heart. It's just thoroughly unhelpful to me.

--I've mentioned this before on these forums, but basically, I really enjoy the process of problem-solving, moreso than the achievement of the solution itself. So if I were to sit back and relax as you suggest, that would take all the joy out of it. Part of me doesn't want to find my type at all because it's more interesting and enjoyable to keep all the options on the table.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

X-x

--I'm trying to solve a multifaceted, interesting technical problem that has a technically correct solution, which you seem to have interpreted as an emotional problem requiring of emotional support. So your response is entirely unhelpful and honestly annoying.

--Your response here is what I'd consider overfeeling (I'm a tertiary feeler). You seem more concerned about my possible emotional state(s) than you are with helping me solve my technical problem. Your approach here is feeling-focused and screams Fe to me. Again, this isn't bad and it actually slightly warms my cold TP heart.

--I've mentioned this before on these forums, but basically, I really enjoy the process of problem-solving, moreso than the achievement of the solution itself. So if I were to sit back and relax as you suggest, that would take all the joy out of it. Part of me doesn't want to find my type at all because it's more interesting and enjoyable to keep all the options on the table.

Then why all the fuss if you don't want to find out your type? What is the point on doubting something, and learning about it if you don't want to have closure? I see that as a waste of time, and a wasted opportunity. The whole purpose of me being here (and probably 90% of other people) is to find my best fit. I don't get the point of walking around in the desert without a purpose and staying stranded when you can keep walking and find a casino and hi the jackpot (and make many contacts in the process).

What's the point in looking at the process of solving problems when it prolongs solving the actual problem? That's another waste of time to me. Solving the problem head on, then having as much fun as you want to and sitting back and relaxing with friends beats always pondering over how things work and getting nowhere any day (I only ponder over things that work in a useful way, related to fulfilling my cause and aims, because that's just common sense). But hey, I'm glad that I managed to warm your 'cold heart' ;D

And, I'm actually decent at solving technicalities and deciphering them when I have to. At the moment, I am working my through a technical and artistic course, but I don't see technicalities as a priority; I can actually see them as both a hindrance and a must, depending on who's viewpoint I choose to look at it through. I'm just a crazy ass fool gliding through life; Fe is my heart, Ni is my telescope, Ti is my toolbox and Se are my eyes. I don't claim to be a professional, nor do I claim to always be right, but I will offer you good advice and a cup of coffee if you ever stop in my office, Mr. I'm-so-tough-Ti-lover. I know your Fe is dying to burst free and hug everyone.

I didn't actually realize how long you had been here for. Most of these posts where made on my mobile app, so I apologize for that. I thought you were quite new, and didn't know much about Typology and needed some guidance, but now I see you joined here in 2010. You looked a little lost, and I thought I was pointing you in the right direction.

 

[strychnine]

Then why all the fuss if you don't want to find out your type? What is the point on doubting something, and learning about it if you don't want to have closure?

Because it's interesting. Because I can. Because I'm a dominant perceiver and I don't need closure, or even want it most of the time.

I see that as a waste of time, and a wasted opportunity. The whole purpose of me being here (and probably 90% of other people) is to find my best fit.

Good for you and "90% of other people"

I don't get the point of walking around in the desert without a purpose and staying stranded when you can keep walking and find a casino and hi the jackpot (and make many contacts in the process).

What's the point in looking at the process of solving problems when it prolongs solving the actual problem? That's another waste of time to me. Solving the problem head on, then having as much fun as you want to and sitting back and relaxing with friends beats always pondering over how things work and getting nowhere any day (I only ponder over things that work in a useful way, related to fulfilling my cause and aims, because that's just common sense). But hey, I'm glad that I managed to warm your 'cold heart' ;D

That's what it means to be a dominant perceiver: every situation exists only to be escaped, even very good situations.

It looks like you have a very poor grasp of dominant perception, especially dominant extraverted perception. I don't care to elaborate on this, just thought I'd let you know.

And, I'm actually decent at solving technicalities and deciphering them when I have to. At the moment, I am working my through a technical and artistic course, but I don't see technicalities as a priority; I can actually see them as both a hindrance and a must, depending on who's viewpoint I choose to look at it through. I'm just a crazy ass fool gliding through life; Fe is my heart, Ni is my telescope, Ti is my toolbox and Se are my eyes. I don't claim to be a professional, nor do I claim to always be right, but I will offer you good advice and a cup of coffee if you ever stop in my office, Mr. I'm-so-tough-Ti-lover. I know your Fe is dying to burst free and hug everyone.

Would these posts be an example of that "good advice"?

I'm not a hardass at all; you're thinking of Te. I just view typing myself as a technical endeavor and find your emotional support unhelpful and annoying.

I didn't actually realize how long you had been here for. Most of these posts where made on my mobile app, so I apologize for that. I thought you were quite new, and didn't know much about Typology and needed some guidance, but now I see you joined here in 2010. You looked a little lost, and I thought I was pointing you in the right direction.

OK. Understandable.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

Because it's interesting. Because I can. Because I'm a dominant perceiver and I don't need closure, or even want it most of the time.



Good for you and "90% of other people"



That's what it means to be a dominant perceiver: every situation exists only to be escaped, even very good situations.

It looks like you have a very poor grasp of dominant perception, especially dominant extraverted perception. I don't care to elaborate on this, just thought I'd let you know.



Would these posts be an example of that "good advice"?

I'm not a hardass at all; you're thinking of Te. I just view typing myself as a technical endeavor and find your emotional support unhelpful and annoying.



OK. Understandable.

 

[1010830]

I feel like I overthink a lot, too.
If anything, it might have to do with extroverted thinking or maybe just thinking. Look at my T percentage score.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

I feel like I overthink a lot, too.
If anything, it might have to do with extroverted thinking or maybe just thinking. Look at my T percentage score.

You know what I dont understand? Why 7 isnt a gut type and 8 a head type. 7s are such guts too. 8s are more grounded and tend to think things through more.