[Alpha] ISFp= which MBTI type

[Fun in the Sun]

Yeah, it's all too confusing for me :/

They should describe the functions the same way.

 

[Fun in the Sun]

I just go in a big f****** circle.

 

[Fun in the Sun]

I'm just gonna live life. Sounds good to me.

 

[WorldSocionics]

MBTI has a terrible understanding of its Sensory Introverts so no profile really fits and any descriptions you might read to find a fit are too simplistic. I would simply ignore MBTI unless you are Intuitive.

However, SEI can be written up in a rich, descriptive profile: World Socionics: SEI - Sensory Ethical Integrator

 

[Fun in the Sun]

MBTI has a terrible understanding of its Sensory Introverts so no profile really fits and any descriptions you might read to find a fit are too simplistic. I would simply ignore MBTI unless you are Intuitive.

However, SEI can be written up in a rich, descriptive profile: World Socionics: SEI - Sensory Ethical Integrator

That explains a lot really. I feel like I'm somewhere between MBTI ISFP and ISFJ; some sort of limbo.

 

[cascadeco]

That explains a lot really. I feel like I'm somewhere between MBTI ISFP and ISFJ; some sort of limbo.

This is perfectly ok imo, just be who you are. If it takes too much work to figure out what mbti type you are, maybe it's not of much value to you. Plus it's not a science, I think there are all kinds of in-betweens.

Re socionics, when I looked into it a few years ago, it definitely didn't match up with mbti in terms of profiles. A socionics ISFp was/is descriptively very much a combo of mbti isfj and isfp descriptions. Not really the same systems at all. Same with the other introverted types.

 

[Fun in the Sun]

This is perfectly ok imo, just be who you are. If it takes too much work to figure out what mbti type you are, maybe it's not of much value to you. Plus it's not a science, I think there are all kinds of in-betweens.

Re socionics, when I looked into it a few years ago, it definitely didn't match up with mbti in terms of profiles. A socionics ISFp was/is descriptively very much a combo of mbti isfj and isfp descriptions. Not really the same systems at all.

It's a lot of work, lol *sweat beading on forehead*

 

[WorldSocionics]

That explains a lot really. I feel like I'm somewhere between MBTI ISFP and ISFJ; some sort of limbo.

Yup, it's possibly even worse for ISTJ vs. ISTP. and the SLIs/LSIs.

 

[buzzybee1990]

Where can you test for all these types?

 

[chubber]

I got the same problem. I'm INTx

I used to test INTJ on MBTI and INTp on socionics. Now I get INTP on MBTI all the time.

 

[cascadeco]

Socionics INTp-ILI descriptions read like a hybrid of MBTI INTP and INTJ.

Yeah, most socionics descriptions seem to be hybrids of both mbti types.

 

[Emperor Enigma]

ISFp = ISFJ.

 

[Russian]

burn these descriptions!

Descriptions created by people, and people tend subjectivism.
What makes types? - Function of consciousness. The ISTP dominant function is Ti and auxiliary Se. The LSI function dominant Ti and auxiliary Se, which means one type.

 

[Ribonuke]

ISFJ - Socionics looks at J vs P differently. In fact, in socionics, ISFps are usually called SEI.

 

[Null]

MBTI has a terrible understanding of its Sensory Introverts so no profile really fits and any descriptions you might read to find a fit are too simplistic. I would simply ignore MBTI unless you are Intuitive.

However, SEI can be written up in a rich, descriptive profile: World Socionics: SEI - Sensory Ethical Integrator

"Furthermore, SEIs will usually disdain people who set themselves up as experts and presume to know what is best for them, especially in regards to their comfort and well-being. This can often result in stubbornness on the part of the SEI and the attitude that their personal experience trumps statistical studies and academic expertise, which might frustrate doctors."

It hurts how much that whole article sums up my life.

 

[Emperor Enigma]

"Furthermore, SEIs will usually disdain people who set themselves up as experts and presume to know what is best for them, especially in regards to their comfort and well-being. This can often result in stubbornness on the part of the SEI and the attitude that their personal experience trumps statistical studies and academic expertise, which might frustrate doctors."

It hurts how much that whole article sums up my life.

Lol, I'm the opposite. If I feel sick, I will automatically go to WebMD or research my illness on the internet, while disregarding the personal experiences of my SEI father and pissing him off.

 

[Unkas]

ISFP is SEI in socionics

and MBTI is the same with Socionics

 

[Yama]

So much confusion. There's not enough consensus in these answers. Some people say ISFJ, others say ISFP. Who really knows anymore? My confusion between the similarities in the two system stems from the S/F functions in socionics kind of sounding... different from their MBTI counterparts. Am I the only one who thinks this, or is this common knowledge?

It doesn't help much that the socionics test consistently says I'm "100% as likely to be ISFj as ISFp"

 

[Smilephantomhive]

I think they switch the J and the P since ISFjs are lead judgers (Fi) and ISFps are lead perceivers (Si). In mbti they go by if you're judging/perceiving function is extroverted.

 

[Yama]

I think they switch the J and the P since ISFjs are lead judgers (Fi) and ISFps are lead perceivers (Si). In mbti they go by if you're judging/perceiving function is extroverted.

Before taking a closer look at socionics I was quite sure of the j/p switch, but after reading about the socionics functions I'm not sure of the correlations anymore. Socionics Si sounds like a mesh of MBTI Si and Se and socionics Se is just kind of weird. And so on.

The more I delve into socionics, its functions, and correlations to MBTI, the less people I find saying that the j and p switch. Now I don't know who's right or what to believe. Two different but similar systems, indeed.