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- sx/sp
I think it affects me when I am particularly stressed or worn down. Images and thoughts of future disasters (personal) will cycle through my head repeatedly. I will become more paranoid and read negative signs in people's behavior, actions, etc, which aren't necessarily accurate. Lenore Thomson writes that ISTPs who are subject to negative influence of Ni will become obsessed with conspiracy theories--this might be true to a certain extent, although in my case, it might not be widespread conspiracy theories regarding the gov't or aliens so much as falsely believing people in my life or at work are conspiring against myself or others.
Interesting. Yeah I can get this notion that people are all against me. As I said, as a kid this was quite my natural state of being. Then somehow at around age 13, I started to try and be more positive about Fe but it didn't work out. I guess the negative Ni is just serving negative Fe there.
I don't relate to conspiracy theories though, not at all. I mean, I don't assume an explicit conspiracy and I don't try to look for details to verify such an idea.
Yes but that's not the only reason. How you were able to break down your thought process so clearly. At least my impression is you know your internal workings and the odds and end quite well
I don't know everything about my internal workings but I did analyse Ti with... Ti?
Not really, unless I am starting a relationship with a special female.
Then why do you say you get your energy from outside? What does this mean for you?
I'm not sure if I can explain this more clearer but as a result of my lust for self improvement I do want a complete picture.
Interesting, how do you relate that with self-improvement? If I don't need the complete picture for some goal - it is very useful to have it then, it gives me expertise - then I either have this nagging sense of wanting to understand it all or I can take it as a challenge. The "nagging" is something that's easily gone though.
Gut feelings for me, is an irrational voice or feeling that point me towards a direction or choice. For example when I was unemployed I turn down a job because something was telling me it would be a bad fit. That I wouldn't last long, it was a telemarketer sales job. I hate ripping people off and would not make a good sales person in this sense. I can only sell something I would buy or support as a good product.
Another example is when buying an item like say shoes. I spent 30 minutes trying to decide which clearance item to buy within my budget. What I ended up picking was the one that my gut initially told me to get, however I didn't listen. I can recall many many times where my gut was right but since I couldn't back up this logic I dismissed it.
Oh interesting. I think I listen to such gut feelings all the time. If I want to buy shoes, I usually pick it right away by instinct.. I just feel which one I want. I don't have a need to back it up with logic. Of course, I may take the price etc into account, depending what kind of item we are talking about.
I can kind of relate. For me I've always been bad at knowing when someone is attracted to me. Being concern with what others think, it really depends on what. Being number one in my field yes that is a major concern. Caring that people don't like me, not so much
You mean, you don't care whether people like or don't like you?
Perhaps not all but I've notice many extroverts having short attention spans and being impatient.
Impatience fits me too. My attention span is very short when it comes to most things that can be sensed (Se). It's almost embarrassingly short, basically I get bored very quickly with most things and just keep moving on. But my attention span will be extremely long when it involves either a goal/object I want to get (to) or when it involves another challenge, intellectual or physical. So how about you, I think you relate to the latter?
I read that thread and I'm still not sure which is my inferior.
Haha lol why not?
Very good question, hmm....... I don't have to understand everything tho I have quiet the curiosity. I've learn in life some things can't be fully understood or broken down. I'm a learner and always strive to learn but I only care about learning things relevant to my interest or goals. For example I learn some really interesting info about air planes but I didn't specially seek out this information. It was presented and I asked and learn.
Yeah I relate about relevance to goals. It's only for short times when I go beyond that. Like the math example.
Here is a interesting question for you guys and I may have asked this in one of my replies. Where is most of your energy directed, internally or externally? I asked my friends and I also had a suspicion that my focus is external. I seldom have internal struggles outside of depression or hardship.
So do you have external struggles then or what? What do you mean by external focus?