Zarathustra
Let Go Of Your Team
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You're kidding right? Are you certain of typing? WW3 and 4.The two ENTJs I know are dating ESFJs.
You're kidding right? Are you certain of typing? WW3 and 4.
What about the ESFJs? Certain from that perspective?One might be ESTJ, but the other is certainly an ENTJ.
What about the ESFJs? Certain from that perspective?
While any relationship is possible, an ESFJ/ENTJ combination would most likely end in murder with the ENTJ left standing due to Te-Ni with its need for goals attainment.
Considering the dynamics of an ESFJ/ENTJ relationship, the ENTJ would have to come to the only conclusion and that's to permanently remove the other. Te will then stop at nothing, to ensure the goal of permanent removal is attained.The ESFJs are definitely ESFJs.![]()
I don't think ENTJs are always as monstrous as they are made out to be.
Interestingly, though, their political affiliations are reversed. My ESFJ mother is a liberal with her conservative ExTJ boyfriend, and my ESFJ conservative friend is with her liberal ENTJ boyfriend.
How would the attainment of goals interfere with the relationship?
Actually, I'm kidding. But I am serious about the ESFJ/ENTJ dynamic being one of volatility since Te and Fe are both environmentally controlling.
ESFJs are incredibly controlling but they use guilt, shame and social devices to do so. Kind of like 'If you don't listen to me about [insert some form of anality], you're bad, blah, blah, evil, blah, blah, mean'.My mother's ETJ is very anal about certain things and is a bit of a control freak, though she lets it go most of the time, since despite his hardheaded-ness, he is very kind. He also only tries to take control of pretty inconsequential situations, so she tries not to let it phase her.
My friend and her ENTJ are in total puppy love, and I'm pretty sure the ESFJ makes sure to avoid politics like the plague around him, since he's very liberal and doesn't know the extent of her conservative-ness yet.
I feel like it's a workable relationship as long as the ENTJ isn't too controlling, and makes it evident that his heart is in the right place, and the ESFJ will be accommodating, recognize how much he cares, and love him nevertheless.
Don't ask me how long it'll last, though. It's been about a year, now, so we'll see. Not that I'm, like, waiting for them to break up.
The two ENTJs I know are dating ESFJs.
ESFJs are incredibly controlling but they use guilt, shame and social devices to do so. Kind of like 'If you don't listen to me about [insert some form of anality], you're bad, blah, blah, evil, blah, blah, mean'.
I dated an ESFJ for 7 years. We spoke very different languages and all too quick to assume we understood.
There's the other side to them where with social devices if you do 'good', they'll lavish you with compliments and whatever their love languages are, whether gifts, services, etc.The evil ones are.
I actually like my ESFJs.