Woman and man's highest calling- Cherokee proverb

[Orangey]

This thread is going to turn me into a morning drinker.

 

[sprinkles]

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FORMAL FIRST ORDER FUCKING LOGIC. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FORMAL FIRST ORDER FUCKING LOGIC. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FORMAL FIRST ORDER FUCKING LOGIC.

That's the only reason I responded, because of post #315. See here, ya dingus.



Goddamn.

It was all sorts of wrong and that's how this whole tangent started.

Yes, and what was the point of all that? Was it worth it?

How does it feel, by the way?

 

[Red Herring]

This thread is going to turn me into a morning drinker.

Word. And there's 37 pages of it.

While I don't have a spiritual bone in my body (that I know of) and thought the proverb to be bleh at best, I do think this whole thing is escalating in a bizarre way.

There are differences and similarities and analyzing the reasons for that (social, genetic, whatever) would deserve a thread of its own (if it hand't been done to death already).
The logical fallacies in this thread have been noted and explained more than once as well. Let it go already.
I do agree that the OP is probably not INTP but rather an Fi user. And on this forum NTs more than any other temperament group seem to resent non-NTs posing as NTs, but really, cut her some slag already, IMHO this does not deserve this much drama and passion.

Knock yourselves out if you insist on continueing but try to keep it civil.
/baby Fe.

 

[Orangey]

Word. And there's 37 pages of it.

While I don't have a spiritual bone in my body (that I know of) and thought the proverb to be bleh at best, I do think this whole thing is escalating in a bizarre way.

There are differences and similarities and analyzing the reasons for that (social, genetic, whatever) would deserve a thread of its own (if it hand't been done to death already).
The logical fallacies in this thread have been noted and explained more than once as well. Let it go already.
I do agree that the OP is probably not INTP but rather an Fi user. And on this forum NTs more than any other temperament group seem to resent non-NTs posing as NTs, but really, cut her some slag already, IMHO this does not deserve this much drama and passion.

Knock yourselves out if you insist on continueing but try to keep it civil.
/baby Fe.

Lock it, then, and be done! Be free!

Things can only continue to go downhill from here.

 

[Red Herring]

Lock it, then, and be done! Be free!

Things can only continue to go downhill from here.

To have people throw rotten tomatoes any cry "censorship"???

 

[sprinkles]

It doesn't have to go down hill if people will stop being insufferable to each other.

 

[Red Herring]

It doesn't have to go down hill if people will stop being insufferable to each other.

Which is why I merely asked to keep it civil. That shouldn't be asking too much.

 

[Orangey]

To have people throw rotten tomatoes any cry "censorship"???

You must quell the rebellion. Embrace your status as the KGB of the forum.

 

[Salomé]

A reactive mod fails to understand the thread dynamic...
Where have I seen that before?

 

[wolfy]

It is Red Herring's role to lead me to Sauce. I will protect you.

My take on the quote is it is useless out of the context of Cherokee beliefs.

 

[Red Herring]

It is Red Herring's role to lead us to Sauce. I will protect you.

My take on the quote is it is useless out of the context of Cherokee beliefs.

At last, somebody gets it. Follow me and I will lead you to Sauce. Become one with Sauce!

 

[Salomé]

That must make you the fella who is here to ensure we can walk the earth unhammed?

 

[wolfy]

As long as you bring sauce. Or me to it.

 

[Red Herring]

That must make you the fella who is here to ensure we can walk the earth unhammed?

Sure, sweety, let me take you under my strong masculine wings and protect you.

 

[sprinkles]

I apologize to [MENTION=4490]Orangey[/MENTION] and anyone else if I've actually tested your patience. Maybe that means something to you, maybe it doesn't. Maybe you actually don't care. I'm saying it anyway.

I probably could have said less, and listened more. So I apologize if I caused you any actual grief, [MENTION=4490]Orangey[/MENTION] (and anyone else)

 

[Totenkindly]

This thread is going to turn me into a morning drinker.

I think I'll be joining you.

I got tequila, whiskey, and grey goose. Take your pick.


(unless of course, you just meant "some mornings" because no one would drink EVERY morning. )

 

[Salomé]

*smothers Sprinkles in piri piri, eats it in a bagle*

 

[sprinkles]

*smothers Sprinkles in piri piri, eats it in a bagle*

Will you cut the bagel into two congruent, linked halves? That would be awesome.

 

[Orangey]

I apologize to [MENTION=4490]Orangey[/MENTION] and anyone else if I've actually tested your patience. Maybe that means something to you, maybe it doesn't. Maybe you actually don't care. I'm saying it anyway.

I probably could have said less, and listened more. So I apologize if I caused you any actual grief, [MENTION=4490]Orangey[/MENTION] (and anyone else)

This is a trap isn't it?

I think I'll be joining you.

I got tequila, whiskey, and grey goose. Take your pick.


(unless of course, you just meant "some mornings" because no one would drink EVERY morning. )

Bust out the Patron!

 

[Pseudo]

Consider the idea that trees have spirits. Can we prove this? No. Can we prove it is not true? No. We would first have to define spirit, then find some way of reliably scientifically measuring it, then have unbiased research on the matter, and then have it published in an unbiased fashion. But I don't need this verification to have it as a utilitarian belief. It produces preferable results for me; so it is a symbolic way of thinking which may not be consistent with absolute objective truth, which I "believe" anyway. I don't assert it as an objective truth, because it is essentially unknowable. But I can operate under the reliable assumption. Maybe the underlying objective principle which is True is that trees and I are made of atoms and their electrons respond to my electrons with the help of protons and neutrons, and that by behaving in a way consistent with this "belief" my energy affects the trees' energy in a way which maximizes health and well being for all.

Regardless of whether you can prove that trees have spirits, they either do or do not.

All i could derive from this post is that you define spirit as the electrical activity of matter. Which we can prove exists. I don't see the point of thinking symbolically in regards to explaining your concept of the world. It literature or poems sure. But "utilitarian beliefs" seem to simply be "saying what you don't actually mean because it sounds more poetic and mystical than the truth".